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Most powerful semi automatic handgun?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by The Viking, Dec 13, 2005.

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  1. The Viking

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    What guns qualify for that title?
     
  2. hkmp5g17

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    Semi auto .308 pistols based on the hk91?
     
  3. The Viking

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    I was thinking more in the lines of traditional (eg not based on a rifle).
    Good choice though. Didn't think of those types of handguns.
     
  4. P. Plainsman

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    .50 AE and .44 Mag Desert Eagles are an obvious choice.

    Wildeys - or whatever it is you shoot .45 Win Mag. in.

    The .44 AutoMag.

    If we drop down to include guns that are relatively common and useful, then the various pistols chambered in 10mm.
     
  5. MCgunner

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    The Coonan is chambered in .357 mag. But, I believe they're out of production. The ten is basically a .357 with a slightly bigger diameter bullet, though.
     
  6. RyanM

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    Would a Mateba autorevolver in .454 casull count as a semi-auto?
     
  7. grendelbane

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    My LAR Grizzly Mk1 is chambered for the .45 Winmag. It has the short 5.5" barrel. It will fire a 230 grain JHP bullet over 1300 FPS with a modest charge of 2400. It will do much better with a full load of 296, but I like to keep things on the mild side.

    I know that Desert Eagles in .50AE and .44 magnum will beat this, as will the .44 Automag. However, the Grizzly is the best compromise between power, size, and practicality I have ever experienced.

    It is a shame that it is no longer in production. Maybe someday?;)
     
  8. Too Many Choices!?

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    Ryan,

    If every time you pull the trigger it goes bang until out of ammo, then that is a semi auto firearm..Even if it has manual ,"cocking of the hammer", as a function of trigger pull;) .
     
  9. RyanM

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    That's the thing with the Mateba. It's a recoil-operated, self-cocking revolver. The recoil cocks the hammer and rotates the cylinder.
     
  10. GregGry

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    I am surprized nobody mentioned the dead (Atleast I think its dead) .440 corbon barreled Desert Eagle :D. If I recall, it had more power then the .50ae, smaller bullet of course.
     
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    How powerful is the .50 GI?

    There was a company that converted 1911s to accept that cartridge. How does it compare to the .50 AE?
     
  12. GregGry

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    I found that online..
     
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    That would disqualify the desert eagle, because it's a gas-operated pistol, pretty unconventional and inspired by gas operated rifles, you'll notice a similarity with the desert eagle and the m16 direct gas system (which incidentally makes the Desert Eagle a jammomatic). Most choices are going to be unconventional like the Gabbet-Fairfax Mars.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Automatic_Pistol

    If you want to talk conventional state of the art pistols like those with a modified browning action there's 10mm.
     
  14. Working Man

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    "jammomatic"??? Maybe in the .44 (I have not heard of any one who has
    not had a problem) but not the .50AE I have thrown 80 rnds down range
    between cleanings with no jams.

    The only jams that I have had was because my buddy's giant hands makes
    the slide catch lock into place since he is left handed.
     
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    Wow, didn't know these existed. Now that would be a fun one to shoot.:D
     
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    If I feed it jacketed ammo, I'm good for up to five boxes between cleanings. The novelty's worn off by then or I can spend five minutes cleaning the rails and chamber.

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    It's certainly the most powerful of any of the semi-autos I have at home, including my DE MK VII.

    It's also less finicky about ammo, no gas system to deal with, and over twice the magazine capacity.

    It's my current contender for biggest semi-auto on the block in pistol form. It's shootable as configured but requires decent forearm strength to steady in traditional one and two handed shooting stances.
     
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    Did you have to do any magazine work or or polish the ramp on your .44?
     
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    Wildey Pistol chambered for the .475 Wildey Magnum might claim the title. Uses cut down .284 Winchester rifle brass inside neck reamed to take .475 diameter bullets. 250 grain bullet at 1850 fps, 300 grain bullet at 1610 fps. Gas Operated, but still fairly conventional.

    Like the one Charles Bronson used in Death Wish 3 :).

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
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    44 DE

    Working Man: I know you didn't ask me, but I owned a DE 44 mag years ago and it shot very well for me with no work on the ramp or mags. I shot primarily 240 grain nosler jhp and some 300 grain sierra jsp bullets in it with AA#9 powder. (Those Sierras just barely fit) I did buy it used so I can't vouch for what might have been done to it before I got it. Mine was the pre-.50 model (MkIV?) that had a stainless frame and blued slide. Nice gun, just not my style after a while. I traded it for something else that caught my eye and didn't give me a starboard list to pack around...

    captainkirk
     
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    LAR Grizzly 44 Magnum Revo Ctg

    This is the LAR, which is an upsized 45 Automatic type chambered for the 44 Magnum revolver cartridge. I think it is a good compromise between availability and power. In other words, ammo is readily available and cheaper than the more exotic rounds and it kicks hard enough to get your attention. :uhoh: :neener:

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    Sorry, what I meant was handguns that isn't basically a cut down rifle...traditional looking then.
     
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    Thanks for the input. I saw a nice one in stainless a while back and was
    thinking of getting it till I read a bunch of bad reviews. I ended up getting
    the .50AE in the MKVII IIRC. It sure does give you a list... I had an under arm
    holster made for it with the wide shoulder pads and vertical draw with a low
    axis, but there is no way I can conceal it without a giant puffy coat. :D
     
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    Although people like to point to the pants-drooping behemoth autos - like the Wildeys, Desert Eagles and even the old AutoMags - those guns aren't your typical or "traditional" semi-auto pistols intended for every day carry, concealed or otherwise.

    In autoloaders chambered for the common "service" calibers, there is a "reasonable" size and weight consideration to be factored-in.

    Single-action pistols like a 5" full-size 1911, or a DA/SA auto like S&W's large-framed 5" 10mm 1006 or .45acp 4506, more or less define the outer limits of the reasonable size and weight factor.

    Much bigger than that and you're into boat-anchor territory. :scrutiny:

    That said, the answer is pretty clear: it's an autoloader chambered for the 10mm AUTO - and not the .40-level stuff, but the high-performance loads on the other end of the power range: those running at or beyond the original Norma-levels.

    For starters, see the 10mm loads from Texas Ammo, Double Tap Ammo, Power Strike Ammo, Buffalo Bore and Reed Ammo.
     
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  24. The Viking

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    Thats fine by me, I wanted to know what the most powerful semi auto handgun was, irregardless of size. But the other info was nice too...now I'm longing for a 10mm...
     
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    Well, I've read a number of threads on this board in the last couple of weeks and seems like the concensus is that the .45 acp is the biggest and baddest auto pistol round on the planet regardless of facts and that no other caliber deserves recognition. Enough said????:D
     
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