Big Mike
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S&W 4006 is also a good performer.
Most reliable .40?
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OrvilleYertleson
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I have fired thousands of rounds (all kinds of stuff to include cast lead) through my USP Compact and have had zero malfunctions or failures of any kind.
I think for pure reliability the USP may be the winner. The thing is a tank. However, it is heavy, expensive, and some people don't like the way they shoot. Also, not everyone likes an external safety.
I think for pure reliability the USP may be the winner. The thing is a tank. However, it is heavy, expensive, and some people don't like the way they shoot. Also, not everyone likes an external safety.
Black Snowman
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I haven't had a chance to try them all but I've liked the HK USPs and Glocks I've owned and shot but my money goes to CZ these days. Just as reliable as the others have been and I can shoot them better. Oh, they happen to be quite affordable as well. Of course YMMV.
I have a RAMI and 85 Compact I shoot regularly and a standard 75B on order to round out my set of CZ .40s. Some day I hope to get a Champion or at least a TS but I can get so many other goodies with that kind of money that it won't be any time soon.
.40 is a good round and there's lots of good guns chambered in it. Making up your mind is going to be tough.
I have a RAMI and 85 Compact I shoot regularly and a standard 75B on order to round out my set of CZ .40s. Some day I hope to get a Champion or at least a TS but I can get so many other goodies with that kind of money that it won't be any time soon.
.40 is a good round and there's lots of good guns chambered in it. Making up your mind is going to be tough.
Mad Magyar
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Always in Condition 5.....If not familiar with "5", you DO NOT KNOW about "Fast-Action"..
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Big Mike said:
Of all the .40's I've owned, the 4006 is the only one that still resides. All of mine were plenty reliable, but the 4006 shoots the best and is by far the most robust. Yes, it only holds 11+1, but capacity is not everything. My natural POA was always high with the Glock, so those extra 4 rounds are uselesss if they go over the BG's head. The P94 I had just didn't feel right, the Sigma was horribly inaccurate and very snappy. The BHP was just as snappy and was fussy with reloads (slightly bulged case heads would not fully seat and the gun would fire out of battery, destroying a set of $80 black pearl grips).
If I was going to pick up a new .40, it would probably be the S&W M&P. Haven't fired one yet, but the ergonomics are wonderful.
Marshall
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Dodge,
You would be hard pressed to do better than the FN Hi Power.
You would be hard pressed to do better than the FN Hi Power.
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Theanalogman
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My two SIG 229s have never had failure of any kind. Accurate and fits me perfectly.
critrxdoc
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Glock 23 hands down. And the "unsupported chamber KB stuff is a bunch of crap made up by the glock envy group!
Here is the fullsize link and the attachment because I cannot figure out how to post pics in the text.
http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=544518
Here is the fullsize link and the attachment because I cannot figure out how to post pics in the text.
http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=544518
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Great pic - so all that open space at the bottom of the chamber on the Glock is not an issue? Looks pretty unsupported to me.
HKP2000 or P99QA. Tough pick between the two - both damn near perfect for CCW. Trigger nod goes to the Walther, slight size/feel and recoil control nod go to the HK.
HKP2000 or P99QA. Tough pick between the two - both damn near perfect for CCW. Trigger nod goes to the Walther, slight size/feel and recoil control nod go to the HK.
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Shield, maybe the experts in the group can enlighten me. I see little difference between the glock, the S/W 99, and the beretta. I have not gotten out the micrometer to see if there is a mm or two difference, but come on, are you really telling me you see a difference between the Smith 99 and G?
BHPshooter
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Critrxdoc,
I don't mean to nitpick, but that picture is doing your argument* no favors.
*your statement, to wit:
The picture clearly shows that the Glock has the least chamber support of any of the pictured guns, with each barrel looking better as you progress downward in the pic.
I'm not saying "Glocks are hand grenades!!!" or any such flaming, but I will say that that isn't enough chamber support to make me comfortable shooting one.
Just out of curiousity, does anyone have a .40 BHP handy that can take a similar picture? I'm curious to see how much support it's got.
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What is the most reliable .40? Hard to say since every .40 I've known personally has been extremely reliable.
I used to own a CZ 40B. I sold it a few years ago and I had it about a year before that so my memory might not be completely fresh, but I don't remember it ever failing. I do remember that I considered it very reliable, even a bit more than my CZ 75B. I don't remember any hiccup and if it had one it was maybe one or two minor hiccups during break-in. I don't know what kind of luck the current owner, Spot77, has had.
I currently own a Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro. I have 640 rounds, almost half of them a variety of JHPs, and it has never had a gun related failure (one factory load that the round pretty much self-destructed, but no gun related failures).
I am currently betting the price of a used gun that the SIG 229 will be the same as I recently bought one online and should have it in my hands in a month (MD law requires I wait a month since I just took delivery of a gun today).
I don't know if it has anything to do with the chambering but I've had far fewer problems combined out of the two .40s I've owned than any one of my other auto calibers (a weird dry fire issue with my Bersa .380 when brand new that resolved itself, one or two minor issues with my Ruger KP345 before learning it doesn't like to be dry, a couple bobbles with my 1911, and a handful of minor bobbles with my 9mm CZ 75B). Hmm, lets see how my new (to me) 9mm SIG 226 and new (to me) .40S&W SIG 229 fare.
I used to own a CZ 40B. I sold it a few years ago and I had it about a year before that so my memory might not be completely fresh, but I don't remember it ever failing. I do remember that I considered it very reliable, even a bit more than my CZ 75B. I don't remember any hiccup and if it had one it was maybe one or two minor hiccups during break-in. I don't know what kind of luck the current owner, Spot77, has had.
I currently own a Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro. I have 640 rounds, almost half of them a variety of JHPs, and it has never had a gun related failure (one factory load that the round pretty much self-destructed, but no gun related failures).
I am currently betting the price of a used gun that the SIG 229 will be the same as I recently bought one online and should have it in my hands in a month (MD law requires I wait a month since I just took delivery of a gun today).
I don't know if it has anything to do with the chambering but I've had far fewer problems combined out of the two .40s I've owned than any one of my other auto calibers (a weird dry fire issue with my Bersa .380 when brand new that resolved itself, one or two minor issues with my Ruger KP345 before learning it doesn't like to be dry, a couple bobbles with my 1911, and a handful of minor bobbles with my 9mm CZ 75B). Hmm, lets see how my new (to me) 9mm SIG 226 and new (to me) .40S&W SIG 229 fare.
Thefabulousfink
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I would go with the HP in .40 (I prefer metal guns)
My second option would be the Baby Eagle in .40 (I own one). Mine has never had a jam, FTF, or FTE (that wasn't an ammo problem). I put it as second because I have heard 1 gunsmith complain that he has had to fix/replace the extractor on several guns, but I have had no problems with mine.
If recoil is an issue, my friend complains that his walther P22 has more felt recoil. Ok, not really, but it is a very nice gun to shoot.
My second option would be the Baby Eagle in .40 (I own one). Mine has never had a jam, FTF, or FTE (that wasn't an ammo problem). I put it as second because I have heard 1 gunsmith complain that he has had to fix/replace the extractor on several guns, but I have had no problems with mine.
If recoil is an issue, my friend complains that his walther P22 has more felt recoil.
Ok, not really, but it is a very nice gun to shoot.
critrxdoc
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Fume man and Shield. I believe that you guys may be missing the point. What I am trying to illustrate is that out of the first 6 guns pictured, there is no "fully supported chamber". There may be a mm or two of metal difference between them, but I just don't see how one could derive that the glock .40 is a KB waiting to happen and the others out of the first 6 are "safe".
. What I am trying to illustrate is that out of the first 6 guns pictured, there is no "fully supported chamber". There may be a mm or two of metal difference between them, but I just don't see how one could derive that the glock .40 is a KB waiting to happen and the others out of the first 6 are "safe".
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