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Most Underated Pistol?

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CZs and Bersas, definitely

I don't think the Ruger P-series are underrated.

If you do a search on them here, concensus is that they are

1) super-reliable
2) reasonably priced
3) too big and heavy for what they are
4) not particularly accurate

As I used to be a P89 owner, that seems like an honest assessment to me!
 
Tamara,

"To those who answer "P7" or "SIG P-series" (as well as the no doubt forthcoming "1911" and "Glock" responses), this thread is asking about underrated guns, not overrated ones. "

Damn you Tamara! :cuss: Until trumpets blare at their mention; until all other guns are smelted into Yugos! Until all hail the greatest mechanical design of any kind, ever!!--P7s will be the most underrated gun.


Blasphemer!:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:


:uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:
 
Of all the pistols that I have personally owned, the CZ-75B really surpassed all of my expectations. I agree with Sean, the CZ really is a "steal" but that will probably change.

The Smith 3913 is also an relatively undiscovered gem. They are sweet, expecially if you find one with a decent trigger. I know a lot of folks hate the Smith autos and think Smith should stick to wheelguns. Not everyone feels that way. I lifted this off a board in a thread about which pistol was best suited to various IDPA Divisions:

For SSP you can shoot just about anything and be competitive...my favorite pre XD has been the S&W 5906. You get the best trigger of any of the DA guns. Great trigger cocking and great single action. Just have to become accustomed to the change. ---Rob Leatham
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CZs! They do everything the more expensive guns do, and sometimes
better.

The problem with CZs in the states is that they have NO Reputation,
or a small but growing reputation among a group of hardcore fans.
WE see that many CZ owners are First Time buyers of pistols or rifles, not battle seasoned 1911 or Glock shooters. Low price does make a
difference in this slow economy.

Among other countries on the planet, CZs are considered world-class
firearms at a great price. No other 9mm (excepting the BHP) has seen
so much holster time among military and police forces.


I've also seen some Bersas locally and there must be a small market for them here as the shop keeps them in stock.
 
With all the people saying or going to say Bersa Thunder, I really don't think it's underrated if that many people like it!
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Well, of course it's not gonna be underrated by people who own it. The point is, you tell someone about your $200 bersa and if they've never had any expeiance with one they expect that you get what you pay for, when in reality it's a better gun than the $500+ gun it resembles.
 
Lot's have mentioned the CZ line.

A year or 2 ago I would have agreed 100%.

Not no more.

I wanted to pick up another CZ75b to "pretty up" with a set of Haken(sp?) grips. Imagine the sticker shock of seeing CZ's going for $499,,, and up.

CZ underrated? No way, no how, not no more.
 
Sig pro, 2340.
Excellent guns, not popular at all.
Most accurate .40 I've ever shot in the auto platform.
My 357SIG barrel shoots like a laser, and that's no BS.
I just can't understand why everybody doesn't have one (or two).
 
Not under rated but under appreciated, the S&W PC 952 9mm. It is highly accurate. It is highly reliable. It is about $1300 and most people are too cheap to pay that much. Or, if they do pay that much these people are in a box that tells them it must be a. 45ACP.

Rich
 
:D :D :D :D :D

Sig pro, 2340.
Excellent guns, not popular at all.
Most accurate .40 I've ever shot in the auto platform.
My 357SIG barrel shoots like a laser, and that's no BS.
I just can't understand why everybody doesn't have one (or two).
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I just bought one with BOTH barrels! I can't wait to pick it up!
 
Sure, Tuner, if you're restricting the category to 1911-types. :)

A "Frankengun"?
Only if every smith or home DIY'er was on his game.
There might perhaps be too many badly-built 'custom pistols' out there to drag the average down.

I do agree with the point, though...
1911 buyers might be better served by having a "Frankengun" assembled with care, rather than buying stock factory with price-compromised components.
:)
 
SiG Pro SP2340

Built like a tank (check out those rails)

Extremely accurate, especially for caliber.

Tames the recoil down to 9mm levels.

Reliable.

One of the best DA trigger's out there.



Newton
 
One of the nice things about the 2340 is you can get 9mm conversion barrels from bar-sto (Thanks, Lunde!), and shoot that gun in 3 calibers for the price of a good 1911.
The bar-sto barrel is no slouch in the accuracy department, either.
Mine has been 100% reliable to date.
(The stock 10 rounders hold 12 9mm cartridges, and are easier to load, as well.)
 
With all the recent hype about 1911's, my nomination for the most underrated pistol is the Smith & Wesson 4506.

Solid, reliable to a fault, accurate as all get out, and will feed anything, including a hand cycled magazine of empty cases.

I'll match my 4506 against any box stock 1911 made. :p
 
The Challenge

glocksman said:

I'll match my 4506 against any box stock 1911 made.
-------------------------------

oooooooh! A wager! Okay. I have a commercial Colt, 1922 manufacture that is, to the best of my knowledge, as delivered. Here's my proposal:

Race to the Finish. (This will require several magazines) Also known as
The Torture Test:

100 rounds as fast as the guns can be loaded and fired. Pistols are to be
immersed in water to cool, and the test repeated until a total of 500 rounds
has been fired. Winner collects 25 points. The pistols are locked open,
two drops of oil per frame rail, applied and the pistols inverted to allow the oil to spread the length of the rails.

The Group Phase

Both pistols are fired at one target from sandbags at a range of 25 yards
from one lot of Federal Match ammunition. Shots that fall outside of a 4-inch circle cost the gun one point each. 100 rounds total. 10-minute time limit. If the shooter goes over the time limit, 5 additional points are subtracted.

Practical Phase: (Timed)

Each shooter loads 2 magazines each with 6 rounds. A third is loaded with
7 rounds, locked in, and the top round chambered. The shooter will engage
3 targets at a range of 30 feet with two rounds per target. An additional
10-inch target will be placed at a distance of 15 yards to signal the end of the string. Pistols will be drawn and fired from concealment in their designed carry mode. Cocked and Locked for the 1911...Hammer down
on the Smith. 25-second time limit. Each second past the limit costs the shooter one point. Misses subtract 2 points, and the time doesn't stop until the 15-yard gong is rung. Time does not stop until the slide is locked
after the gong is rung...either manually or automatically. Each shooter repeats the phase 3 times for a total of 57 rounds.(9 magazines)

The Return to Service Phase.

Both pistols will be detail-stripped, cleaned, lubed, reassembled, and placed
back into a state of readiness by loading one magazine, chambering the
top round, placing the pistol into carry mode, and reholstering. 30-minute
time limit. Each minute beyond the limit costs the shooter 5 points.

Loser buys the ammo.

Standin' by...

Tuner
 
glocksman,

The single-stack Third Generation Smiths are definitely underappreciated guns. I'd just as soon have a 3913 as a P-225 or a 4506 as a P-220ST.

Don't mind 1911Tuner; he gets all touchy when someone dares insinuate that his pet ain't The Ultimate. ;)






(PS:
1911tuner,

Let the guy like his gun, okay? It's probably every bit as reliable as your '22 Colt, accurate enough, and mostly only hampered by its DA trigger. Wouldn't you feel silly if "glocksman" was, like, Dave Sevigny's screen alias? ;) )
 
Let it Be

Tamara said:

Let the guy like his gun, okay?

*grumble grumble* Well...aight.
I wuz jus' seein' if I could get in some free shootin':p

And:
Wouldn't you feel silly if "glocksman" was, like, Dave Sevigny's screen alias?

Nope.:cool:

And Finally:

The single-stack Third Generation Smiths are definitely underappreciated guns.

I agree. I just don't think it'd hold up for the torture test.:D
Okay...I stacked the deck on the detail-strip. I'm a bad boy.
 
Beretta Model 70S .22 LR.

If you find one at a show, it will be priced about $150 - $200 OVER a new Beretta of similar size, caliber.

Geoff
Who bought a Ruger Mk I instead. ARGGGG.:(
 
*grumble grumble* Well...aight.
I wuz jus' seein' if I could get in some free shootin'
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I said the Smith was accurate as all get out, not that *I* was as accurate as all get out. :D

I'd lose because I'm not *that* good of a shot. :eek:

On the other hand, I let a KSP officer shoot a few magazines through it and he was able to shoot cloverleaf groups at 25 yards.

I know the gun'll do it, but it's owner can't. :(

Some here don't care for Mas Ayoob, but he once called the 4506 'the most reliable .45 known to mankind'.
 
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