Movie gun myths/reality comparison/debunked

[LiveLife]

At the range, we often have discussions to compare/debunk movie gun myths with reality (I believe they can be useful training experience if viewed with realistic understanding):

We ask new shooters to look at the recoil heights of barrels/front sights during gun fight scenes with 1"-2" muzzle climb being more realistic. Often, the slide don't even rack with each firing.

In the movie Under Siege 2: Dark Territory, Steven Seagal tells another character you should undo the safety before you shoot and he's holding a Glock???

What's the loud "slide chambering sound" when characters point a gun? Is it exaggerated safety being undone? Even when they are using guns with no external safety?

In the movie True Lies, the terrorist fires over 100 rounds in the bath room and then changes out the 30 round AK magazine.

 

[Walkalong]

Oh yea, I'd love to have that AK mag. I wonder how they fit all those rounds in there?

Good movie anyway.

 

[pikid89]

i like when glocks have a cocking sound like a SA revolver or
i was watching disney tarzan with m little brother and at the end the bad guy gets of like 12 shots out of a double barrel shotgun in the course of a few seconds

 

[Walkalong]

I like the "click, click, click" when their auto goes dry.

 

[rcmodel]

Lets not forget the flash of light & puff of smoke every time a bullet hits a wood doorframe, plaster wall, or car trunk or bumper.
Even if it is a plastic bumper on a mostly plastic car.

rc

 

[LiveLife]

The entry wounds often looks like the exit wounds while they are being shot ...

Although we have discussed in depth about Tomb Raider/Lara Croft's behind the back dual mag holders for USPSA use ... required many slow/freeze frames to examine the gear

 

[lgbloader]

fires over 100 rounds in the bath room and then changes out the 30 round magazine

BDS,
I was thinking the same thing on the Kevin Costner film "3000 miles to Graceland". I'm saying all this thoughout the movie and Mrs. LGB is just rolling her eyes at me saying, "Honey, it's a movie... try to enjoy it."

LGB

 

[EddieNFL]

Literature is not much better.

"as he screwed the silencer on the barrel of his .38 revolver."

"He quickly released the safety catch on the Python .357 Magnum."

But the best I've ever heard came from shooters.

"The Glock .45 Gap doesn't drop out to 300 yards."

"I used my 8MM Mauser to kill an elk at 973 yards."

 

[lgbloader]

Hey it doesn't just stop with firearms, Eddie.
Ever hear musicians talk shop?? I used to gig like crazy when I was younger and listening to guitarists 'modestly talk' about their abilities takes the cake.
Guitarist joke: How many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb? 5.
1 to change the lightbulb and 4 to say "I can do that".

Sorry to side swipe the thread.

LGB

 

[John Matrix]

My personal favorite is the handheld vulcan cannon that appears from time to time in the movies:

 

[Walkalong]

Yea, and then they shoot a truck load of ammo from it without a re-load. It sure looks cool though.

 

[Offfhand]

One of the funniest is the sharpshooter in "Private Ryan." Where did they find the arms "advisor" that got him and his equipment so FUBARED?

 

[LiveLife]

In the Saving Private Ryan movie and many other war movies, the primers are missing from machine gun ammo links - they could at least have used spent primers ...

Good fight scene at the end ...

My personal favorite is the handheld vulcan cannon that appears from time to time in the movies:

At least in the Predator movie, he wore a backpack full of ammo that fed the vulcan ... pretty heavy load

 

[mongoose33]

What I laugh at is the one-handed shooting of UZIs.

It's hard to hold that weapon on target with two hands, but then we see Arnold holding one in each hand going to town.

And naturally, they never show the lower left to upper right pattern of shots.

 

[EddieNFL]

At least in the Predator movie, he wore a backpack full of ammo that fed the vulcan ... pretty heavy load.

Where did he stash the batteries?

 

[Dimis]

arnie had the backpack in T2 as well as for batteries... maybe the terminators secondary power cell ran the mini lol

 

[FROGO207]

C'mon guys you know it all must be true, after all it's IN THE SCRIPT!!!!!!!!
I do wish I had that 25 shot sixshooter however, and make it a 44 MAG.

 

[LiveLife]

Where did he stash the batteries?

I think it was solar powered ...

And of course he was firing recoil less rounds ... no recoil

 

[dwave]

I love the TV shows where every time they pull up a pistol you hear the cocking sound, no matter what the pistol is!

 

[Claymore1500]

I'll join in, One of my personal favorite TV shows is "Stargate SG1" for those unfamiliar with it, it's about an airforce unit, using an alien artifact to travel to other planets.

One of the aliens that they are fighting is called "the replicators" (mechanical bugs, the size of a baseball glove) they shoot these things while they (the bugs) are crawling over computer terminals, they are usually using P90's or shotguns, and cutting the bugs to ribbons, but they almost NEVER damage the computers.

NOTE: if my GF see's this I'm toast, it's her favorite too, and she hates it when I call foul on all of the mistakes.

 

[geigersd]

What I hate are all the shooters doing it "Thug style". Holding their pistols 90 deg. sideways.

Try that next time at the range and see how you shoot!!!

 

[spartywrx]

What I hate are all the shooters doing it "Thug style". Holding their pistols 90 deg. sideways.

Try that next time at the range and see how you shoot!!!

I always have a new shooter try out that position (with me hovering all over them for safety of course) to show them how unrealistic the movies are.

Then they always complain about the whole "reloading" thing.

"What, this AR15 doesnt have a 100 round capacity?"

 

[LiveLife]

Quote:
What I hate are all the shooters doing it "Thug style". Holding their pistols 90 deg. sideways.

Try that next time at the range and see how you shoot!!!
I always have a new shooter try out that position (with me hovering all over them for safety of course) to show them how unrealistic the movies are.

Well, you were using the wrong sights!!!

 

[Randy1911]

In the movie "Open Range" with Robert DuVall and Kevin Costner, Charlie Waite is shooting a Colt Single Action Army. He runs across the street fanning the gun and it shoots 9 times. Kevin Costner in a interview he blames it on editing. But my favorite are the movies with the magazines that never run out of bullets. I mean they shoot 100 times with a 10 round mag.

 

[qajaq59]

It isn't a "new" trend. When I was about 6 years old the Durango Kid fired 18 shots out of his six shooter. And that was in 1945.