Movie gun myths/reality comparison/debunked

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JellyJar said:
In the movie "The Book of Eli" just mentioned, at one point the hero Eli is in a street and the bad guys try to shoot him. They miss of course and he shoots them all single handed with a pistol including a bad guy on a roof that is ties to shoot him with a rifle.

In the end we learn that he is BLIND.

That's debatable. He could have been blind in that one eye. I personally don't think the film was meant to be overly supernatural. I would like to think Eli learned braille because of his will to save the last existing Bible, not because he was blind. (I don't think he was blind in both eyes.)
 
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"The Grey Fox" had realistic no-nonsense Firearms scenes, mostly SAA and New Service in big Calibers....a nice 'Bisley'...


Good Movie all round...


Yeahhh...Hollywood-Shotgun wise...


I have seen real life video of people being shot close range with Shotguns, and all you see if like a puff of wind hits their clothes, whether they yes or no then fall down or whatever.

Their Body does not move or indicate any reaction to speak of, other than falling down, if they do.
 
My favourites are the stand-offs where the bad guy has a pistol to the head of leading lady and the hero is pointing his gun at them. The baddie has to tell his life story and where the good guys have gone wrong etc. The bad guy tells the good guy to put down his gun.

Why doesn't the bad guy just shoot the good guy and get it over with?
 
I will let this go at this.

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The movie did not even imply that he was blind.
He knew the lady was blind by looking at her face.
He could read braille so what, that does not mean he was blind. He also looked at people when he talked to them. His eyes moved just as a person who could see.
 
The reason I stopped watching 24 is because of the terrible gun handling. Jack Bauer would always point a gun at someone's head, then when he really meant business, would cock the hammer, even though just before he went into the room he racked the slide. I guess we missed where he decocked. Then, when the person gives him the information he wants, then he decocks with his shooting thumb, all while still pointing it at their head. Stupidity after stupidity. The only time I saw them making sense is when they had Bauer attaching a silencer.

Which brings me to another thing that bugs me. They'll shoot multiple shots with a 45 then whisper to each other. Clearly, no one on the set has ever fired a real gun, or they'd know that you would have a hard time hearing a shout let alone a whisper after firing a .45 inside a closed room!
 
I don't know how many times I've seen a movie where a semi-auto pistol fired with the slide locked back. The next shot, the slide is forward again, yet the magazine was never inserted or changed, nor the slide released.
 
One of my favorites, is when someone in a movie is pointing a 1911 type Pistol at someone up close, then, to show they REALLY mean business, they cock the Hammer with their thumb.

Yeah, but it is even better when they do it with a Glock!

The main character gets himself into multiple gun fights against multiple thugs who are armed with multiple rifles that have lots of rounds. The main character is armed with a handgun of course and wins every time.

Yeah, and then after the main character drops the first wave of rifle/shotgun armed badguys with said handgun, and there are ARs/M16s and shotguns laying around everywhere, he doesn't bother to upgrade is armament. Then again, he is just to awesome for a long gun :rolleyes: .
 
has anybody seen wanted? i refused to watch that movie for weeks because of the previews and when my GF finally convinced me to watch it i just hated it more! i would like to see realistig gun handling and shooting not that bullet-bending-bullcrap!

open range was another. it looked really good in the preview but the whole movie builds up to a single gunfight and what happens first?....20some rounds fanned out of a single action rapid fire style! and who knew that a 12ga through a wall would throw a man clean off his feet and slam him into a wall.

oh yeah and the 3rd mummy movie...runs a 1911 dry and it sounds like he is dry-firing a double action revolver:banghead::fire:
 
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The movie did not even imply that he was blind.
He knew the lady was blind by looking at her face.
He could read braille so what, that does not mean he was blind. He also looked at people when he talked to them. His eyes moved just as a person who could see.

The movie implied Eli was blind when they showed an eye clouded over at Alcatraz. Also, there was some supernatural stuff happening in that movie, like when Eli shot the snipers on the roof with his pistol. In that scene, it's actually more believable if Eli is blind and supernatural stuff is going on.

Regarding the blindness, it cuts one of three ways:
(1) Eli was blind and supernatural things were happening.
(2) Eli was NOT blind and supernatural things were happening.
(3) Eli was NOT blind and supernatural things were NOT happening.

Blind and supernatural is most believable (option 1). Options 2 and 3 require a stronger suspension of disbelief. If you believe some things were supernatural, then you might as well believe Eli was blind (knocking out options 2 and 3). If things were NOT supernatural, then Eli had unbelievable abilities for a man (knocking out option 3).

So, whether or not Eli was actually blind is still debatable. Remember near the beginning of the movie, Eli says, "I walk by faith, not by sight..."
 
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mljdeckard said:
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Yes, he is. When you see his eyes uncovered at the end, they are clouded over.

I didn't like it very much, not nearly as good as The Road Warrior.

I recall seeing only one eye clouded over. Like I said above, I think his blindness is debatable. Arguments on both sides make sense.
 
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