Movies or tv shows,that seem to not want the heroes armed

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Actually.... in the pilot episode of MacGyver, he is parachuted onto the top of this rocky mesa, he takes out a bunch of bad guys solo ala Rambo style with a captured gun, then uses a swiss army knife to set free someone who was being held in a makeshift prision cell. He then jumps off the rock formation with the prisioner and parachutes away. I can rewatch it at home and see what kind of gun it is.

Later on they made him anti-gun and gave the backstory of how him and a bunch of friends were messing with one when one kid got shot.
 
Indeed. A-Team episodes would be fifteen minutes in length, tops.
A-Team is approached by people requiring their services.
Client: "Mr. Lee sent us. He said you people could help us."
Hannibal: "What seems to be the problem?"
Client: "We're being constantly harassed by zombies and whatnot. They've been harrassing the children."
B.A.: "Let's kill those suckas."
*Hannibal asks about payment, Face counts and expresses his approval. B.A. is knocked out and put on a plane. They arrive at BG's place.*
Hannibal: "We got a special delivery for you slimeballs!"
*Cue A-Team theme, gunshots. BGs are dead.*
Hannibal: "I love it when a plan comes together."
*Credits roll*
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But if it went like that and everyone actually hit things we wouldn't get to see that jeep hit that bush and flip over in every episode and the opening credits.

I do find it amusing that a highly trained special forces group couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with machineguns.

It was like the G.I.Joe cartoon when everyone fired thousands of rounds at each other and only vehicles ever got hit.
 
I do find it amusing that a highly trained special forces group couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with machineguns.
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Two sided answer:
1. The were using Ruger Mini-14s, which are notorious for inaccuracy.
2. Running from the .gov is okay, but shooting people dead ain't (in spite of the fact that they're shooting at you. Could bring trouble down on your client). They're not hitmen, they're... troubleshooters. The guns are for intimidation... and blowing up vehicles.
 
Has anyone else seen the classic caper flick "Rififi"? There's a scene early on where one character is pitching the heist to the protagonist, who accepts it on condition of no guns. His reasoning is that French law mandates much stricter sentences if they are caught with guns compared to without. So the gang ditched their guns for the robbery, though there's a fair bit of shooting elsewhere in the film.
 
Children Of Men I heard was pretty anti-gun. I heard the main character didn't even pick up a gun once in the movie even throughout the long shootout process.
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Julianne Moore is a real-life anti-gun activist and she is something of a liberal,hippie-type,too.Iv'e heard this and from what I've read about her,it must be true.I guess that she probably enjoyed playing Owens free-spirited former-lover,then.Clive Owen's character was a public-school boy and university leftie,whose life was changed by his girlfriends influence.Living without her around,he became a middle-ranking civil servant or a outer-party member.But Owen's character has a violent streak in him and would kill or seriously injure people,if he had to.

But think about the Irony though:All of the Fishes,especially the older ones,were probably anti-globalist,capitalist,etc protestors back in the 80s,90s and 2000s.Some probably were May Day rioters and Poll-Tax rioters,in 1990.They are all armed with handguns and they are still dressed like protestors.

Moore's character was their leader and she wasn't armed,because she is intelligent and non-violent.I was sad to see Micheal Caine's character getting beaten and shot to death,by one of the Fishes.I'd hoped that Caine's character,both in the book or in the movie,would have blown some of them away with a shotgun,before dying in a blaze of glory.That scene shocked me,because you can't but help like Micheal Caine's easy-going character.
 
At the same time, I can think of about fifty movies I've seen recently where the hero used a gun to solve problems, including some really surprising ones. When Denzel Washington's house had a brick thrown through the window in Remember The Titans, Denzel came out with an 870 to defend his family. So can I assume that this is a top secret pro-gun propaganda moment? Is Denzel pro-gun?
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Denzel Washington's character was called Herman Boone and he was a black man in a white middle-class suburban neighborhood,in the early 70s(1971.).He was also the head-coach,which people frowned upon,because he was black.Alot of people were racist back then and he experiences first-hand racism,throughout alot of the film.Will Patton's character was not keen on him,at first-either,because he was the head-coach before Boone.The thugs or Jocks who bricked his windows,did so because he was black and was the head-coach,of a newly,mixed -race school's football team.It was also set in the Southern States,where movie makers,wanted to make these states,the Mecca of racism-in the USA.It was set in Virginia,I believe.

Tension between the white boy football teams and the black boy football teams were rife and it took a while for both groups to settle down,respect each other and work together as a team-once merged,together.

He had a shottie,to defend himself and his family against racist thugs and because of the danger that he was facing,regarding race-especially in that town.He probably used the same gun,for hunting too,but we aren't shown this at all,in the movie.
 
Clive Owen's character was a public-school boy and university leftie,whose life was changed by his girlfriends influence.Living without her around,he became a middle-ranking civil servant or a outer-party member.But Owen's character has a violent streak in him and would kill or seriously injure people,if he had to.
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Clive Owen is actually in the film Shoot 'Em Up,out September 7. It looks to be exactly what the title promises. So yeah,actors don't condone or condemn what their characters do. It's all for a handsome paycheck.
 
I may be wrong but I do not remember James Gardner having a lot of gun play in the Rockford Files.
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I recall that he kept his handgun hidden in a coffee can, under the grounds!

Again, circumstances warrant him NOT carrying. He is invesigator, he is looking for information. Sure he might end up in unsavory places, so maybe he was carrying just never had the need to pull. Or frequently he wasn't carrying and had to run (see above, proper response from actor results in 15 minute episode)
 
Could it be that writers only write what they get paid to write, and actors say whatever they're paid to say? If an actor has personal views on fireearms, and has been directly quoted espousing those views, he'll still say or do whatever's in the script, because that's what he's paid to do. And however much the movie-makers and TV producers are ruled by their politics, money talks. I have a real hard time with the idea that they would deliberately introduce anti-whatever elements into a script, unless they thought that would make the script (and final production) more salable.
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I agree with the first part, actors will say what you pay them to say. You don't need to really like human liver and fava beans to try out for the roll of hannibal lector.

however, writers and producers do indeed try and send a message with their films. Often they try and send many messages. Take a look at Lethal Weapon 3 or 4, they actively go out of their way to have antigun posters in the background, and make antigun comments, and have 'evil copkiller bullets' be part of the plot.

Same thing exists just about anti globalization, anti pollution, anti corporation, anti pollitical party, anti racism, whatever. It gets put in by the writers or directors with intent.
 
IIRC, Denzel Washington also comes out of his cabin with a gun (lever action something or other) in "The Pelican Brief" when Julia Robert's character comes stumbling up out of the dark...

Doesn't mean that he is pro or anti, just that both of those movies he's mentioned in have a very realistic reaction on the part of the characters to night time disturbances.
 
Everybody Loves Raymond

There was an episode where Ray's brother Robert (an NYPD sergeant) is in a pizza joint when a guy comes in to rob it (with a gun, of course.)

Robert, in a police uniform, grabs a pizza pan, high crawls across the floor over to the guy, and hits the armed robber in the hand with it, knocking the gun out of his hand. Riiiiiiight.:rolleyes:
 
Now on Supernatural, Dean Winchester has himself a nickel-plated Colt 1911 and sawed-off double-barrel. I like it. Of course,they shoot demons instead of people,and I guess nobody really has a problem with shooting demons. With salt.
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Salt is for ghosts. Blessed iron for demons, IIRC.
 
BTW--anyone ever notice that the Scarecrow in the 'Wizzard of Oz' has a revolver drawn for about three seconds in the sequence where they encounter the talking trees? You don't see it before then
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I just watched my kids' DVD. It's not the scene with the talking trees. It's the scene where they are walking through the Haunted Forest to go after the witch's broom. They are all armed. The Tinman carries a heavy wrench in addition to his axe, the lion---a bug sprayer and a butterfly net, and the scarecrow---a shiny revolver which you can see him carryng for over a minute. :D

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Rockford was a convicted felon. He couldn't legally carry.
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yes and no. he was a convicted felon, but the conviction was overturned and he was exonerated, and it was expunged. It never happened. Except human mind doesn't have a delete button, and people (especially the police) remember he got convicted, but not that it got overturned and expunged.
 
Some years ago, I heard Hollywood referred to as Hollyweird by a film criric. I like the last term since it expresses the unreality of many films and TV programs. Think about the following for a moment. Do you believe that someone like Wonder Woman could deflect bullets with her wrist bands? Do you believe that a utility belt like Batman's could save a person from armed robbers? The list of such absurdities is as long as the imagination of Hollywood writers. One thing is certain: Hollywood seeks to entertain people, not inform them about intelligent self-defense choices.


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Rockford was pardoned by the governor
The gun in the cookie jar was to demonstrate his hatred of violence
 
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