Has thr ruined movies, TV for you?

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I was watching the last seaosn of 24 and the bad guy (who was supposed to have taught Jack everything he knows) is running around with his finger on the trigger with the pistol near his face.

Most action flicks are so out in left field they only disgust me.
So many movies portray such poor gun skills that they make the whole thing
unbelievable.

Even so called reality shows like Americas most wanted show the worst kind of
gun skills.

Do they want uninformed kids to shoot each other?

Can anything be done?

Kids do imitate what they see on TV, don't they realize they are teaching kids to hurt themselves?

I was watching Fox news & they were interviewing the dad of the kid that got ahold of a gun in some R politician's gun in PA and ended up dead.
The kids dad explained that they had no guns or knowledge of them.

To me it seems obvious that lack of proper gun skills can lead to death.

I am willing to bet the 14 yr old found a gun, showed it to a friend and they went out to the woods to play with it and imitated something they saw on TV and bang...dead kid
 
The entertainment industry and notably anti-gun actors are dead set against you or anyone else teaching the safe handling and shooting of real guns, but they feel that earning obscene amounts of money by making movies and shows that portray incredibly unrealistic or dangerous gun handling is okay.
 
Actually, it's probably done the opposite. When you see an actor handle a gun properly, you have respect for him/her. Example: Steve McQueen in 'The Sand Pebbles'. He's got a BAR - and he keeps asking for another magazine. Then he gives the gun to a wounded sailor while he's chopping a rope holding a barrier together - and gives the sailor the ammo bandolier, too. His handling in the courtyard, too. Very good for an actor - but this actor was a former Marine, after all.

I do get a chuckle out of the silenced revolvers that so many TV shows seem to have, though.

As for finger-on-the-trigger, you've usually got at least a five pound pull - so casual waving the thing around probably wouldn't make it go off. It's a very unsafe idea, but it's not going to make the gun go off every time it's done.

As for the idiot kids - I don't care whether you've been taught to put your finger on the trigger or not. You ought to know better than point something dangerous at someone else, be it a knife or a Kalashnikov. Especially at 14.

Personally, what makes me ticked off is when the hero lays down his gun to fight hand-to-hand with somebody - that's a very stupid thing to do. I prefer the Indiana Jones method. A master swordsman comes toward you. Turn to him. Draw. Shoot. Holster. Go about your business.
 
I watched Power Rangers and never randomly attacked people.


Thats why Firearms Education needs to be taught in school. And if youre child didnt take and pass that class it goes on the record, and any kind of negligent use of a firearm is not pinned on the firearm itsself but on the user.


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No, not a bit...!

Safe Shooting Awareness of ALL kinds--here on this forum or any other forum or at any shooting range--has increased my appreciation for GOOD gun handling on the tube AND boosted my awareness of how sloppy things CAN get both on the tube and on the street. Heck, long ago (when I started shooting) I realized I could identify many of the major semi-auto manufacturers with just a glance of the gun on screen, and even identify some of them by the sound they made when someone racked a slide! How could this be "ruining" my viewing experience? Not at all. I regarded it as a far-out, astounding rise in appreciation of ALL of it!!:)
 
Just getting more and more cynical as i grow older.


Just tonight I was watching the replay of CBS's Smith and noticed the huge continuity mistake during the robbery and escape. It is just as the Museum closes, the decoy girl is in broad daylight faking an attack, and when the robbers run out of the Museum and climb into the Escalade, all of a sudden it is pitch black, timeline it is just a few minutes, but according to the time of day, it is hours. GGGGRRRRRRR that sort of thing just kills the show or movie to me.

i get upset in any medium, when supposed "experts" have no clue?

Any one see the Toyota truck add with the guy holding up the hammer saying his dad taught him that he needed the right tool for the job and holds up a titanium hammer, but then says things have changed so use the nail gun, seeing as the hammer in his is hand is many years newer than the the ancient air nailer he is holding, all I can do is laugh and shake my head.
 
click, click, click

on a Glock that should have slide locked if it was empty.....

It annoys me , all the dumb stuff I see.
Plus kids see this "finger on the trigger stuff" and it gets ingrained.
Gun safety should be mandatory to get your high school diploma.
 
Sorta.

1) Every time guns come up on screen, I find I try to ID them all right away (if they are particularly hard to ID, it's time to hit the 'pause' button).

2) You start questioning character's firearm choices - whenever I watch "The Matrix" lobby shootout scene I wonder why Neo throws away two perfectly good MP5ks and draws, of all things, two Beretta 92s. James Bond's PPKs just aren't as cool when you know they fire a borderline defensive round.

3)The worst, however, is any scene where people are held at gunpoint - I guess it makes for good drama, but no sane police officer would interrogate a terrorist out in the open at arm's length. Jack Bauer is guilty of this a lot.
 
Yes. THR has ruined any fun watching TV and movies. It will take years of therapy and anti depressants to make life worth living. I"m sending them all the Bills. Hope all the Bills don't eat them out of house and home.:what: :evil: :neener: :scrutiny: :banghead: Hey I write for Leno and that other CBS Late show.:neener: Kidding folks. The SIT DOWN COMIC strikes again. Sitting down makes me a smaller target than standing up.:banghead: Actually, laughing at the TV cops and BGs is more fun than the plots. Almost as good as Clinton's Attorney General with her finger on the trigger sweeping the room at a press conference with the AK47 and a 75 round drum in place. Idiot criminals can keep turning the pistols sideways to shoot too. Will now exit, stage right.
 
I don't have a TV set and see maybe five movies a year. THR has not ruined my great passion which is books.
 
Has THR ruined the movies? NO! The movies and TV ruined it for themselves!

If you were to become a "couch potato" and watch TV shows and movies 24/7, you'd see that very few of them are mistake-free when it comes to firearms.

I recall seeing a big "OOPS!" in an old black & white movie, back when I was only 10 or 11 (1957 or 1958). I don't recall the name of the movie, but there was a bad guy holding a small PISTOL on several people. Then, the angle of the camera moved, and....suddenly, the bad guy was holding a snub-nosed REVOLVER on the people! I certainly hope that the "continuity director" was fired for that!

In the early 1970's movie "A rumor of war", there weren't enough blank-firing M-14 rifles available in Hollywood. The "prop" gunsmith did an excellent job of converting several blank-firing M-1 Garand rifles to "look like" M-14's. When the battle scenes started, there were Garand en clips flying!
The gunsmith had TOLD all of the actors to only fire 7 rounds, so I guess that those actors could only read their scripts....but not count to 7!

How about the "ancient" Western movies? They all seemed to want to add to the velocity of their bullets by rapidly whipping their handguns in front of them when they fired! More often than not, their accuracy while at a fast gallop on horses was "outstanding", especially when they "threw" those bullets at the bad guys!

The 1950's "Superman" TV series! Superman would stand proudly and smile as bullets bounced off his chest, but he would DUCK when a bad guy threw his empty revolver at him!

I absolutely HATE seeing American-made fighter aircraft painted up as "enemy" planes! What a travesty it was to see a "Nazi" P-51 Mustang! And German WW-II "Tiger" tanks do NOT look a thing like the American-made Patton tanks! In the movie "Patton", George C. Scott's troops were fighting against "surplus" American-made "Nazi" PATTON tanks!
 
No, but common sense "made" most of the situations years ago. TV in general hasn't much educational value (for me) and those entertainment pieces (movies, "reality" crap, whatever) are entertainment and not intended to be real, or even necessarily approximate what's possible or likely.
 
I've been ruining tv and movies for others for many years by pointing out the various stupidities including gun stupidities. It didn't take thr.
 
I just laugh at all the errors I see, although sometimes they make me angry because they make us gun toters look bad. Oh I saw an ad for Sleven?, the new movie with bruce willis where he uses an XD. and I noticed he is pointing/sorta aiming his XD at something and the loaded chamber indicator is down. haha I started chuckling in blockbuster and everyone looked at me funny
 
Many years ago, in a city far, far away...

A good friend of mine and I were watching the movie "Excaliber"; a fairly decent rendition of the King Arthur story.

About a third of the way into the movie, while watching a scene of brave knights fighting and slashing and pounding on each other, my friend turned to me and said, "You realize plate armor wasn't developed for another five to eight hundred years, don't you?"

I nodded and said, "Did you notice they're only striking each other on the armor, and not attempting to hit the exposed head?"

As has been noted, it wasn't THR (or TFL) or the internet at all.

Unless it's a gaffe which is physically or logically impossible (like sniping a rifleman off a roof with a two inch model 36 at 168 yards) I tend to ignore the firearms errors. When I saw Sergeant Shultz from "Hogan's Heros" carrying a 1898 U. S. Krag rifle rather than a 1898 Mauser, I was more amused with the idea a Sergeant would be walking guard duty.

After all, a soldier walking guard duty would be carrying a long gun, and at least they got the year right. :rolleyes:
 
There was some movie on TV yesterday (I have no idea, as the wife switched over to it when I was not in the room). The wife switched to this movie and it shows a guy in a phone booth with some nut making him say stuff to a crowd outside the booth. My wifes says there is a sniper that is holding him hostage in the booth.
I say, "Wow, really tough. Course, he could simply step out of the booth and leave at a slow trot. The guy would never touch him.":what:
No, she says, the guy would shoot him.
The guy would never FIND him, I said. I then explained the compression of field-of-vision when looking through a scope.
Even if he had open sites, if he is any distance away (they said he was a sniper), a nice trot, good luck hitting him on the move.
My wife was shocked. I think she actually believed that Hollywood got some things close to reality.
I then explained how close you had to be to get a resonable shot from a pistol.
She was dumbfounded.
 
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