Moving CCW weapon in front of friends/family/dates?

[Dave Dembinski]

Although they probably obtained that information under the FOI act (I don't know if it's publicly available, or what the system is there), it is still a massive instrusion of your own personal privacy. Morally there is no difference between publishing that you have a CCW permit, or publishing your school records. I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of privacy clause to protect that information from being published in a public medium. Hell, if child molesters can protest their rights when their deatails are published in public sex offender databases, I'm pretty sure you can take some legal action against that news rag.

Cheers.

Actually, they got that information because it's part of the Ohio CCW laws that the press can have it. I believe there's a stipulation that the press can have access to it as long as it's not abused, but I'll give you one guess at how likely it is that part will be remembered.

The Plain Dealer in my area does the exact same thing. Unethical? Absolutely. Immoral? Sure. Illegal? Not yet.

 

[pittspilot]

My wife didn't know I had a CCW until a local &*#@$ news rag decided to print the names of all CCW holders in the county. But that would be another rant.

How did your wife not know?

 

[rockstar.esq]

I have an ADC gun safe that has slots cut in it to accept those laptop locking cables. I am a student who must woefully leave my heat roadside and given the lacking security of my ride, I ponied up the dough for a strong portable gunsafe. If I'm really trying to be sneaky, I'll pull my revo out of strongside carry holster and work it around to the front pocket of my jacket without ever flashing the gun. Then it's a simple matter to douse your jacket into the trunk ( assuming you didn't have any other option).

 

[TFH]

Just be more careful in the choice of your friends...

Seems like just about every car or pickup has a gun in it in MT (it's legal to have a gun in the car without a permit, though not yet required ), and I don't hear much about guns getting stolen from cars.

Stay home as much as possible - why buy a nice house and then spend all your time running around

+1 it's legal in SC to and thats pritty much where mine stays but I do have a CCW. I Sometimes carry but every body close to me knows and its not a problem.



Todd

 

[Broadhead]

"Pay no attention to the hand behind the towel."

You might consider keeping a hand-towel in the car, same color as your car's seat cover or floor mats.

 

[Zach S]

I just do what I need to. If the other person (or people) in my vehicle have a problem with it, its their problem, not mine. Normally if the person doesn't know I carry, there's a mutual friend there that tells them not to worry and thats the end of it.

If I'm with someone else in their car, they know I carry (one or two of them do as well), and they dont have a problem with it. Most of the time, if I'm not driving, I'm with a close friend or family that doesnt have a problem with it. The only exception is when my car takes a crap, and someone offers me a ride somewhere. That's only happened three times in eight years, and in those situations my CCW hasnt had to be moved.

I would be quite concerned about stashing a handgun in my glove compartment. While I don't have any first hand experience with breaking into a locked glove box, the midnight boys around here don't seem to have too much difficulty with that.

The glovebox is normally plastic, and the dash is normally plastic. All it takes is one good pull, or possibly some prying if theres no place to grip it.

Not that I make a habit of breaking into gloveboxes, but sometimes its needed to get in the trunk of a car at a junkyard, and sometimes the trunk key (or button) is in a glovebox that is locked, or has a latch that doesnt work properly.

 

[edison]

Pittspilot said: How did your wife not know?

1. Different work hours.
2. I don't carry always.
3. She doesn't walk up and grab my pocket (not that affectionate, I guess).
4. I don't usually carry around the house.

Seriously, by the time she would get home, my P3AT (or carry piece of the day) would be safely stashed away. I go to the range often so the time spent in the mandatory classes was not unusual. It wasn't that I was trying to pull something over on her, I just didn't want the argument. I need to venture occasionally in areas I just don't feel secure. The option of not going there is not an option.

edison

 

[edison]

Dogwelder said: The Plain Dealer in my area does the exact same thing. Unethical? Absolutely. Immoral? Sure. Illegal? Not yet.

I remember reading that someone posted the publisher's name and address on several websites, but I don't remember if it had any effect on the PD policy. There's nothing like a newspaper's ability to make life hell for certain targets. Woe unto you if you're the whipping boy of the month.

edison

 

[pittspilot]

Pittspilot said: How did your wife not know?

1. Different work hours.
2. I don't carry always.
3. She doesn't walk up and grab my pocket (not that affectionate, I guess).
4. I don't usually carry around the house.

Seriously, by the time she would get home, my P3AT (or carry piece of the day) would be safely stashed away. I go to the range often so the time spent in the mandatory classes was not unusual. It wasn't that I was trying to pull something over on her, I just didn't want the argument. I need to venture occasionally in areas I just don't feel secure. The option of not going there is not an option.

edison

Okay, I was just wondering.

I don't want to sound judgmental or anything, but I wouldn't feel comfortable carrying if I did not have my wife's knowledge and support. And hiding something like that indicates a basic lack of trust between the two people involved.

Also, if you ever have to use that firearm, your wife is going to have to get used to the idea of the inevitable criminal and civil lawsuit while still getting used to the idea that you were carrying the gun. I am not sure a marriage could survive that.

Lastly, if she does find out when you are being covert about it, your future chances of convincing her that carrying is the right thing to do is minimal since carrying will be something she will now associate with deceit. In essence she will believe carrying is not appropriate, since you hid it from her

Just my thoughts.

 

[edison]

Pittspilot said: Okay, I was just wondering.

No argument, you are 100% correct. The good edison made these same valid points. Unfortunately, since I've been active in shooting for about four years now, I succumbed to the dark side. It is something I considered long before Ohio actually enacted CCW.

Shoot well (and stay out of the dog house).

edison

 

[Michael Courtney]

The Plain Dealer actually missed my name in their publication of local CCW holders.

On the other hand, I consider it in the best interests of RKBA as a whole if some of us are out of the closet. Since I'm a semi-public figure (college professor and small business man who has made the front page of the Plain Dealer business section), as well as a teacher of CHL training courses, I feel I can do some positive public relations by publically making the case for CCW and RKBA as often as possible. This necessarily includes revealing my status as a CHL holder and stating my motives at times.

Of course, revealing oneself as a CHL holder should be a choice made freely by the individual, and one needs to be careful to reveal only one's status as a CHL holder and not imply whether or not he is packing heat at any given time and place.

Michael Courtney