Moving CCW weapon in front of friends/family/dates?

[Krenn]

So, there are a number of places where, depending on your state and the specific building ins question, carrying a concealed handgun would be unwise, inapropiate, or illegal. For example, Churches, College Campuses, certain public buildings, The homes of others.... the list goes on.

Now normally, there are two basic options: You can leave your gun somewhere else ahead of time, or you can leave your gun in your car when you get there.

problem is, you don't always KNOW that you'll be arriving at one of those locations, or you may be going to other places where CCW is appropiate, first.

So here's the question: How do you handle moving your handgun from your holster to a secure place in your car, if you have friend, family member, or date in the car? these people might be fine with the idea of a CCW, or they might be neutral, or disaproving, or rabidly against it... and they may or may not know that you CCW. Usually you would know which, but not always.

 

[edison]

So basically, you're caught between a dog and a tree, and about to get wet. Here in NW Ohio the anti's distributed the no gun leaflets and signs to every store and business on the face of the earth. I'm sure there are parking lots so posted. Not that the criminals pay one bit of attention to these signs. What is obvious is that this is an attempt to make lawful CCW so inconvenient that few folks will bother with all the restrictions.

You're left with the decision that concealed means just that, and you ignore the signs (disclaimer: this is discussion only, I am not advocating any course of action here), or lawfully putting your piece in your trunk when you arrive at your destination. Even our sheriff has gone on record of saying that this will increase the chances of handguns falling into the hands of the bad guys as cars are broken into. Let's see, unhooking roscoe from my belt and locking it in my trunk isn't the most unobtrusive thing I can do in broad daylight. And woe unto the first poor schmuck caught with a weapon in a No Gun Zone restaurant. I'm sure the gendarmes will be there before the meal is finished. Undoubtedly the charges and punishment (not to mention embarrassment) will exceed that of some small time hood caught with a weapon during a robbery. It is not likely your 15 minutes of fame on the nightly news and morning talk radio will be a memorable experience. And who wants to be the poster boy for prosecution for having the temerity to have a weapon in your possession when you drop off little Annie, Amal, or Raheim at school. Not that I typically carry at 7:30 a.m., but it could happen.

The bottom line is we all make choices and there are consequences to those choices. Better to have and not need, than need and not have. Sounds good, but be prepared for the consequences. I wish I had some good answers for you. BTW, I keep my own family in the dark. They talk too darn much. Haven't been busted yet.

edison

 

[Krenn]

actually, I was thinking more along the lines of a reinforced glove compartment, stowage box beneath the seat, or center console... you would ordninarily do that unobtrusivly without stepping out of the car, but you have someone sitting right next to you.

 

[Ala Dan]

Anti-gunners be'ware, this civil minded individaul goes armed 24/7~!

Most all who know me, realize this important fact. For those that
don't, I will post a "sticky" on the dash board, headboard, door,
or where ever else one is needed~~

 

[Standing Wolf]

I just carry everywhere. Simplifies things quite a bit.

 

[PlasticPistolPacker]

I just carry everywhere. Simplifies things quite a bit.

Me too. Well except MASS

 

[JohnKSa]

I just carry everywhere. Simplifies things quite a bit.

Non-solution.

While out with the in-laws, I ended up standing in front of some metal detectors and several legal no gun signs.

I made up an excuse to go back to the car and left the gun in the glove-box. Carrying everywhere sounds good but it isn't always a realistic option.

 

[Shootcraps]

I just point out their window and say, "Oh look! A baby wolf!". While their head is turned, I slide it into the glove compartment.

 

[edison]

Sorry about the earlier rant. I got sidetracked and didn't really answer the question.

I would be quite concerned about stashing a handgun in my glove compartment. While I don't have any first hand experience with breaking into a locked glove box, the midnight boys around here don't seem to have too much difficulty with that. I have done as others here have mentioned and left my handgun in its concealed location. I do feel a bit of anxiety when I do that however -- like I'm breaking the law. I guess that's what separates me from the bad guys -- a conscience.

My wife didn't know I had a CCW until a local &*#@$ news rag decided to print the names of all CCW holders in the county. But that would be another rant.

edison

 

[Pilgrim]

My wife didn't know I had a CCW until a local &*#@$ news rag decided to print the names of all CCW holders in the county.

It seems appropriate to study the habits of the news rag's staff and publish what you find on the Internet.

Pilgrim

 

[dasmi]

It seems appropriate to study the habits of the news rag's staff and publish what you find on the Internet.

+1

 

[TallPine]

Just be more careful in the choice of your friends...

Seems like just about every car or pickup has a gun in it in MT (it's legal to have a gun in the car without a permit, though not yet required ), and I don't hear much about guns getting stolen from cars.

Stay home as much as possible - why buy a nice house and then spend all your time running around

 

[GlenJ]

I work in a Gov't repair facility and park outside of it. In the mornings I just get out of my car, put up the trunk lid and take my P3AT out of my right front pocket with the holster in my palm and put it in the car there's usually no one around. In the afternoon when everyone's walking out the gate together I open the trunk put my coat and lunch box in the trunk and palm the gun to my front pocket again. People are in such a hurry to get home and worrying about traffic no one notices or even asks. I would handle the passenger scenario the same way. Just keep whatever your carrying in the trunk and do the switch then. It also makes it easier if you carry a mousegun like I do.

 

[Working Man]

Those who know me well already know, those who don't like it can walk.

For those that don't, I will post a "sticky" on the dash board,
headboard, door, or where ever else one is needed~~

Ala Dan, would that "sticky" be right side up or upside down?

 

[ShelbyV8]

I just pull it off and drop it in the center console compartment and step out of the car like it is the most natural thing in the world. If it bothers anyone, they can walk back to where ever they came from.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

I have gone back to the car for something "I forgot" or would often let them exit the car and I could shuck it quick enough that they never knew I had it.

Most of the time my wife doesn't know I have it. A lot goes into a good plan for those situations. However, I'm not around anyone who would through a total fit about it. If I knew they would freak then I think I would either leave it on or leave it at home (I would leave it on and let them deal, but that's me).

I bit of planning and stealth will go a long way.

 

[Arch]

My wife didn't know I had a CCW until a local &*#@$ news rag decided to print the names of all CCW holders in the county.

Although they probably obtained that information under the FOI act (I don't know if it's publicly available, or what the system is there), it is still a massive instrusion of your own personal privacy. Morally there is no difference between publishing that you have a CCW permit, or publishing your school records. I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of privacy clause to protect that information from being published in a public medium. Hell, if child molesters can protest their rights when their deatails are published in public sex offender databases, I'm pretty sure you can take some legal action against that news rag.

Cheers.

 

[TimboKhan]

at the risk of getting myself into serious trouble, I am a university student, and we are NOT allowed to carry on campus, as one would expect. I also am a student teacher at on of the local high schools. As such, I generally keep my carry revo tucked away in my truck until such a time that I can carry it on my person. It sucks, as I worry constantly that my truck is gonna get broken into, as both places are prime areas to get broken into. On the plus side, my truck isn't fancy at all (1994 Ford Ranger 4x4), and because of my nomadic school schedule, is generally full of books and trash, making it less than desirable.

 

[MDG1976]

In MO, the only place it is a crime to carry is on mass transit. Any place else (including colleges, churches etc.) they can ask you to leave if you're "made". If you refuse, they can press tresspassing charges.

 

[f4t9r]

I would agree leave it in the car if its not needed to carry for whatever reason

 

[Michael Courtney]

This is not a big deal at all. Most of my friends and family know that I carry because I'm an instructor and most of them have either taken the CHL course from me or talked about taking it from me. So when a transition is necessary to stay legal, I just do it and am simply concerned with keeping the muzzle in a safe direction. On the rare occasion when I have to transition in front of a person who may not have previously known that I was carrying, I simply say "It's licensed" if they make a comment or I notice a questioning look on their face.

Michael Courtney

 

[TimboKhan]

To add to what I said earlier, and more to the point, to answer the original question, I generally don't sweat moving around friends/family because they all know I carry, and as a rule, they couldn't care less. I don't have a girlfriend, but I have to say, if she was uncomfortable with me carrying that would likely translate to her being uncomfortable around guns in general, and for me, thats a dealbreaker. Thats the one positive I can say about my ex-wife, she was a liberal Democrat, but she left me alone about my guns! Of course, her aunt is Marilyn Musgrave.......

 

[spacemanspiff]

wait....you guys have friends??? and dates?????

i hate you all!

 

[Arch]

some of them even have families.

 

[lawboy]

People involved in my life on a daily basis know I carry.
If I am out and about with others in my vehicle, and a need arises to stow the gun, then I do it. I really don't care what they think. I have a dedicated strong box in my truck for the gun. It is a steel box with a piano hinge top and a padlock. It is through bolted to the floorboard between the seats and would have to be ripped out with some kind of machine.
If I am out in someone else's vehicle, I will be carrying in a Sig-Tac jacket. If I can't take the gun inside with me, I simply take the jacket off and leave it in their trunk. If possible to wait for them in the car rather than go inside the prohibited area, I do that.