Moving to CT

[vogski]

I have a job offer in Southeastern CT, and so arguments against moving to CT will fall on deaf ears. I'd appreciate help with knowing of any problems with what I currently own. Some are obvious, but I will list them anyway.

Long guns
1. CZ452 .22LR, 5 & 10 round magazines
2. Finnish Mosin-Nagant, standard 5 round internal, Finnish stock
3. JC Higgins Model 20, 12 ga, pump action, standard stock
4. Saiga 7.62x39, unconverted, but with skeleton stock, 10 round magazines
5. Browning [semi-] Automatic .22LR, 11 or 12 round tubular magazine

Hand guns
6. Ruger MK-II, .22LR, Great Eight, 10 round magazines
7. Glock 19, 9 mm, 17 & 15 round magazines

Misc. not guns
8. Any restrictions/requirements for bringing them into CT as part of relocating
9. I am not concerned at this point to getting a CCW in CT, but I'd like to know if there are any strange aspects to going to the range or keeping these in the home, like mandatory locks/cabinets/safes.
10. Any restrictions on amounts of ammo (~1500 7.62x39, plus bunch of 22 and misc lower amounts)

Thanks for any help on this . I have looked before for any problems on any of these firearms, and I've not seen any. But then again, the law in confusing and awful to read :banghead:.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

http://www.jud.state.ct.us/LawLib/Law/firearms.htm

 

[eye5600]

+1 on the link above.

As to specific weapons, the CT AWB takes the "evil features" approach as well as a list of guns by name. Evaluate anything semi-automatic carefully.

CT separates handgun from long gun by barrel length. It's not hard for a semi-automatic handgun to run afoul of the evil feature limit if it's "tactical."

As for going to the range, until you have the pistol permit, about all you can do with a handgun is keep it in your home.
If you show up at a range with a handgun and no permit, it will probably be confiscated. (I believe it's ok if you are with a friend with a permit, but I don't know for sure.) I think you have to attend a class to get the permit no matter how long you've been using guns, and it may take a few months first to last.

 

[N003k]

You MAY have a problem with the Saiga in 7.62x39, the law lists "Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type" which seems to be taken to mean anything that uses the AK-47 action and fires 7.62x39.

 

[vogski]

Thanks for the answers. The handgun part makes more sense.

On the Saiga, since it could be an "Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type", I understand the concern. But the rest of the law, in case the gun is not listed, states:

(Quote)
(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:
(i) A folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) A bayonet mount;
(iv) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
(v) A grenade launcher;
(unquote)

Since the Saiga doesn't have this, what's the deal? I found this http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=23411. Talk about stupid...

Does anyone in CT have a Saiga in 7.62x39 or seen one personally for sale?

Thanks!

 

[N003k]

Personally I have seen Saiga's up for sale, but only in other calibers, and I have seen WASR's up for sale, as long as they're not in 7.62x39.

I don't think you'd be legal with the Saiga in CT, of course, I'm also not a lawyer or a professional on the law, I can only go on what I've seen and heard concerning it.

 

[vogski]

Sigh... I hate stupid.

I guess I going to sell it then and get two more (different) guns! Only seems fair.

Rereading the law (which I probably have wrong), it looks like all original config, wood stock 10 round internal mag SKS's are fine. Or should I avoid the Yugos?

Thanks for the good feedback.

 

[N003k]

A standard configuration SKS with the 10round box mag is fine, I personally have one, gifted one to a friend as a starter rifle, and gave my step father money for a Norinco SKS as a starter rifle for him, (After they both shot mine) As long as you dont have a removable mag on the SKS, it's perfectly fine.

If you DO modify it to accept removable mags, well I'm not sure whether they consider a folding fixed bayonet to qualify under the bayonet mount bit. If they don't you'd still be fine as you're allowed one thing, if they do, it'd be an assault weapon.

 

[vogski]

Thanks again. I will keep my eyes open for some deals (as if). I guess I am in no rush, except to sell the Saiga.

 

[mp510]

You are going to have to loose the Saiga.

If you want to purchase any more handguns, or carry/transport the pistols outside of your home or fixed place of business, you will need to obtain a Permit to Carry a Pistol or Revolver. Unless you get one as a non-resident before coming, you will need to first apply to your town and then the state. Most towns are pretty good, but some like to make the process more time consuming or difficult than the law allows.

8. Any restrictions/requirements for bringing them into CT as part of relocating

You can move them to Connecticut, with your other household goods without a pistol permit. Obviously, they need to be unloaded, secured and packed away. After you get to your new residence, they need to stay there.

 

[N003k]

No problem, the only other concern is the pistols, but I imagine there is some legal process to bringing them into the state, if a process is even required at all if you're moving here. You may want to contact the state police just to check on that.

 

[Mainsail]

OK, do I understand this right? If I were to move home to CT I could not bring my AR-15? I know you can't buy them there, but what if you already own one? I brought a Glock 17 to SC in 1987 and they were 'illegal' because of the Saturday Night Special definition. While nobody in the state could buy one, it was legal for me to own one and I could have sold it privately. Of course, that law magically changed when SLED wanted to carry Glocks.

 

[vogski]

I will keep them (pistols) indoors, tucked in, until I get my town and state permits. I am going to SE CT. I imagine that is a better area for acceptance than SW CT. (I don't know which specific town we'll be living in yet.)

 

[vogski]

From http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/#?st=CT

"Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon shall, within 90 days, either render it permanently inoperable, sell it to a licensed gun dealer, or remove it from the state."

Like killing your best dog, it feels.

 

[beatcop]

Search the forum for CT threads, there's some decent info out there and quite a bit of misinformation.

The final answer can be obtained by contacting:

State of Connecticut
Department of Public Safety
Special Licensing and Firearms
1111 Country Club Road
Middletown, CT 06457

Telephone (860) 685-8290
Emai:[email protected]

You may get a clerk, so do your homework and read the statutes for yourself.

My .02, item 4 is an issue.

 

[atblis]

OK, do I understand this right? If I were to move home to CT I could not bring my AR-15?....

I wonder if the AR15 might actually be doable.
A)As long it is not a "COLT AR15"
B)As long as it meets the evil features requirements.

IIRC, the issue with the Saiga is that the law says AK47 "Type" in the list of specific banned firearms, but for ARs just says "Colt Ar15"

So, an AR15 with a non threaded barrel and no bayonet lug (basically a ban configuration).

 

[N003k]

On the AR-15, like the above poster said, pretty much as long as it doesn't have AR-15 marked on it, and it passes the evil feature test, it's good. I personally have a Stag Arms, reciever's marked Stag-15, Full stock, full length, no bayonet lug, and YHM compensator that's pinned on rather then a flash suppressor.

 

[distra]

I live in the area you are moving to and it's not bad to get your pistol permit. I know several instructors who can get you efficiently through the safety course. As for the Saiga, you are best off calling the State Police or Hoffman's to determine if it is legal. Again, CT bans by name and features. I have an SKS and AR-15 (ban configuration of course) that are perfectly legal here. There are several ranges in the area, Quaker Hill, Ledyard, Niantic, and Pauchug to name a few. PM me if you want names of instructors.

 

[svtruth]

Where in

CT?
If close to the border, RI has surprisingly rational gun laws.
Good Luck.

 

[vogski]

RI may be possible. We'll have to look at what's available, taxes, etc. Job is in New London, so RI is doable.

I will wait until I am up there to contact you on the instructors. Thanks.

I wasn't into this back during the federal AWB. This stuff is crazy. I am going to have to build a ban-config AR-15 in 7.62x39, I think...

 

[DELTAJOHN]

"Thanks for any help on this . I have looked before for any problems on any of these firearms, and I've not seen any. But then again, the law in confusing and awful to read."

Welcome to CT! I moved to Virginia 4 years ago from CT, never looked back! Although making 40% more as a teacher in CT, than here in VA I lived paycheck to paycheck in CT. My savings here is INCREDIBLE with less income. Let me give you one small sample, my 2004 Mustang GT cost $1800. a year to insure in CT, full coverage. In VA, it costs me $504. My '04 Corvette $494. (bought in VA) Car tax on the Corvette in CT would be $800/year, in Augusta county, VA
$175/year. Getting the picture? House taxes CT, $8500. In VA, 12 acres
pasture, 5 YO 3000 Sq Ft house, pond, barn, yearly taxes, $1065.

Forget a CCW permit, it's issued first by the City in CT, then state. The cities tend to "lose" your paperwork.

I lived there my entire life of 49 years, and in all honesty I'm thrilled to be gone! I love my new adopted state! Best of luck, at least you will enjoy the food, the restaurants are top notch!

John