Moving to Wyoming!

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Fletchette

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Well, the Brady score did it – I am moving to Wyoming! It was the last little push I needed to decide to pull up stakes.

I’ve lived in Colorado since 1987, and still think the state is great, but I fear it is starting its decline. I can remember seeing people open carry as a matter of daily occurrence. I had moved from the Kingdom of Kennedy (borough of Boston) and was shocked when I saw a man carrying a S&W auto into a gas station on his hip, and simply pay for his gas and not rob the place! I also saw a group of bikers with revolvers on their hips…and not rape and pillage the town! My eyes were just beginning to open.

Another little moment to which I have to confess; I was shocked to see air pistols on sale in the aisles of sporting good stores (as opposed to behind locked cases). In the Kingdom of Kennedy air pistols were considered “handguns” so you needed a Firearms Identification Card and local police approval (and be over 21) before you could touch one.

Colorado was like a different country, a free country.

However, in the last 19 years Colorado has made some mistakes. Immediately after Columbine, locals caved in to the media pressure and enacted Amendment 22 which requires a background check for gun sales between private citizens if any portion of the sale occurs at a ”gun show”. A “gun show” is further defined to be three or more people. Not only is this blatantly unconstitutional because it violates the Second Amendment, it also violates the First Amendment; Freedom of Assembly. The idea of a few friends, in the privacy of their own home, to exchange a firearm requiring the permission of Big Brother is starkly reminiscent of Stalin. Since Amendment 22 is an Amendment, not a law, I suspect we will never be able to repeal it.

The underlying problem with Colorado is the importation of millions of newcomers, mostly from California, into Denver. These people are used to such laws and actually want a Socialist State. As Denver grows the state as a whole becomes bluer and bluer. The results are depressing. The last election serves as an illustration.

For the first time in decades, the Democrats have taken control of the State government. I fear the next election will be worse, turning Denver into a Rocky Mountain Chicago.

After a decade of liberal attacks, Colorado recently repealed TABOR for five years. Without spending/taxing/borrowing limits, the state will soon be bankrupt. Taxes will skyrocket.

The city of Denver ignored a local referendum on the ballot that was passed legalizing marijuana within the city saying, “city police will still arrest marijuana possession because it violates state law”. With the same breath, the city refuses to abide by state concealed carry laws and enforces more restrictive city laws that are specifically prohibited in the state law. Denver cites an obscure legal term of “home rule” to do this. This picking and choosing of which laws to enforce, and which parts of the Constitution to read, and which elections to follow, is highly un-democratic. It is the first steps to dictatorship.

Meanwhile, I noted that our neighbor to the north, Wyoming, is actively fighting gun control. The state attorney general recently fought the BATF and won, allowing local concealed carry permit holders to purchase firearms without going through a background check (since they had to go through a background check to get the permit).

Wyoming has no income tax and a state mandated ceiling of 5% sales tax (4% to state, local municipalities may add no more than 1% in addition), so TABOR is unnecessary!

Then the Brady Campaign scores came out. Wyoming got a solid “F” for “Freedom”. That did it. I called a realtor to assess the value of my house and he not only assessed the value but brought a buyer for full price. Sold. I’ll be in Wyoming by the end of the month.

I think this will be the last move of my life. I do not see any place more Free to live on the entire planet.

So, are there any little quirks I should know about with regards to Wyoming gun laws? Any potential pitfalls that I am not aware of? I have had a concealed carry permit in Colorado for over a decade and know where and where not to carry in this state; I just want to make sure I do not innocently do something to get myself in trouble in Wyoming.
 
I envy you. I can't afford to move yet.:( :banghead: :( I hear that Wyoming is 10 degrees in the winter though. Take some pics of the area & post them if you can. I hope you enjoy your new home.:) :)
 
I grew up in Wyoming...Cheyenne to be specific, and there's no doubt you have chosen to move to "free country." With all the hunting, fishing, and outdoor sports activities in that state it's highly unlikely you'll see the same pattern emerge as in Colorado. There is still the tough, independent, western settlers mindset there and the people tend to be fiercely dedicated to being left alone by the government. The winters will be hard though, especially if you're used to Denver. But enjoy the outdoors and the wide open spaces. It's nice to know that there are fewer people living in the entire state of Wyoming than in the city limits of Denver...no more traffic hassles for sure!!!!
 
The underlying problem with Colorado is the importation of millions of newcomers, mostly from California, into Denver. These people are used to such laws and actually want a Socialist State. As Denver grows the state as a whole becomes bluer and bluer. The results are depressing. The last election serves as an illustration.
For the first time in decades, the Democrats have taken control of the State government. I fear the next election will be worse, turning Denver into a Rocky Mountain Chicago.

It's hard to say whether Denver wants to be the Chicago or San Francisco of the Rocky Mountains.
 
Fletchette - Welcome to Wyoming. You shouldn't have any problems
with the gun laws (actually, the lack of). You will have to wait 6 months
for a concealed carry permit. You need to take a 4 hour class, fingerprints,
and a background check, takes about 2 months max after applying.

Truthfully, that's about the worst of it.

Course you will have to do things like smile and say hello to perfect strangers,
wave at your neighbors when you drive by their houses, and don't ever say:
"That's not the way we did it where I came from"! :)


Jack
 
I lived in Wyoming for two years....Gillette to be specific.

I hope you like wind, wind, wind, and more wind.

And yeah, the winters up there are a bit rougher than even in Colorado.

Not as much snow in NE Wyoming, but man, that wind.

I've seen --60 before. And that was before the windchill was figured in.

I love NE Wyoming for about three weeks at the height of summer.

hillbilly
 
I left Colorado in 1997. In the county where I used to live, you can't build a dog house or chicken coop, or even cut a tree on your land without a permit.:(

Nothing against Wyoming, but I figured it just wasn't far enough from Colorado - and all my relatives that still live there ;) That's why we have a PO box so they don't know where our place is.

It actually took me a few years to stop looking over my shoulder after I moved up here. So many things that I would just assume were illegal or regulated, but they weren't up here.

But don't even think about moving here ... it's cold, windy, muddy, and no jobs and you wouldn't like it at all :p
 
Yea Wyoming sucks dont move here . If you cant drive 65 in a blizzard and 6 inches of snow with out flinching..... move over!!!!!
March is the MUD season your truck gets lower milage because it weights 1k#s more!!!!!!!

V4, 10 degrees ???? heat wave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Everybody keeps moving--and I admit it's tempting (hey, I live in Los Angeles). But eventually all the RKBA people will end up on a self-created reservation, holed up in What's Left of America. You think "they" aren't coming to Wyoming or [fill in the blank] sooner or later, one way or another?
 
As a colorado native, i totally agree with what is happening here. It's getting scary in some levels, although still better than the coasts.
I envy your move to WY.
I would like to be there too, but not yet
Good on ya
There are some parts of Wyoming that aren't windy, not many, but they do exist.;)
 
My mother in law is from Afton, in Star Valley. She jokes about the 9 months of winter, and they won't attempt a drive up there after Labor Day or thereabouts.

It's pretty country, congratulations!
 
I'm building flight time, working toward eventually being able to fly for a living (need about 2500 hours with 150 in multi-engine planes...I have a ways to go). The charter and corporate flight departments in Wyoming are all going to be getting copies of my resume, follow up phone calls, 'drop-in' visits and emails.

I want liberty.
 
longeyes wrote;
You think "they" aren't coming to Wyoming or [fill in the blank] sooner or later, one way or another?

To borrow and modify a phrase "Stupidity abhors a vacuum."
 
"They" are coming to Wyoming in droves.

I grew up here. Family homesteaded at the turn of the last century.

A trip to town and back for supplies took 3 days with a team and wagon..

Use to be you couldn't see a light at night for 30 miles in any direction, now they shine all the way to the border of the ranch.

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Thar ain't no lights shinin' at night in this part of Wyoming....yet...:(
 
"Use to be you couldn't see a light at night for 30 miles in any direction, now they shine all the way to the border of the ranch."


It's the same here. Where I live you used to just hear shots from hunters & trees in the wind. Now you hear sirens & cars.:( :banghead: In the words of General Patton, "God how I hate the 20th century."
 
Everybody keeps moving--and I admit it's tempting (hey, I live in Los Angeles). But eventually all the RKBA people will end up on a self-created reservation, holed up in What's Left of America. You think "they" aren't coming to Wyoming or [fill in the blank] sooner or later, one way or another?

That is exactly the point of moving. If RKBA types vote with their feet and move to Free states then we will have majorities in those states and be able to prevent socialism. If we stay in blue states we will continue to be in the minority and will succum to tyranny of the majority. The whole idea is to increase the political polarity in the nation so as to force the issue, not to keep sliding into tyranny.

The Romans knew that it is good strategy to retreat to a defensible position and dig in rather than trying to hold onto worthless ground.
 
Wyoming has no income tax and a state mandated ceiling of 5% sales tax (4% to state, local municipalities may add no more than 1% in addition)

What about property taxes?
 
Congratulations. I know your decision wasn't made lightly. If I were inclined to move from AK, WY would be at the top of a very short list of places to move to.

However, since I appreciate the personal freedom I have, I'm not inclined to move.

I can still homestead properties outside organized jurisdictional boundries without property taxes and the winters suit me just fine. I think I'll just stay put.
 
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