MTech defensive pen?

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Does anyone use the MTech Tactical/Defensive pen that can comment on it? This is the item: http://www.bladeplay.com/item--MTech-Tactical-Pen-Defense-Tool-w--8629

Here is my situation: Two to three days a week I go into downtown Baltimore for work. I have to go into the courthouse where, of course, no weapons are allowed. I have to go through a scanner but the pen would be in my bag which is searched but not scanned.

I park about five blocks away underneath an expressway in a metered parking lot. It's a little isolated and the stink tells me that the homeless (at least a few of them) live there at night. I feel somewhat vulnerable parking there although I've never seen any trouble or any youths hanging around.

It just occurred to me last week that I could use my plastic ball point pen (free from my title company) as a weapon when walking to and from the car. I know that everyone frowns on anything 'Tacticool', but I'm now thinking that maybe an aluminum pen would be a better tool in this situation than a 'giveaway' plastic pen. I would still keep the plastic pen for writing, so the defensive pen doesn't even need to work well as a pen. It just needs to be a stronger than plastic instrument, that doesn't look like a weapon, and not cost an arm and a leg.

Any comments about my situation and/or this MTech pen? Thanks in advance.

Updated 4/22/12 I found a 6.5 inch, flat top pen by Takedown Gear online that I've ordered. This is almost an inch longer than most pens and appears to have some girth so that I have something to hang onto. It was $13 plus shipping so no big loss if it doesn't work for some reason, but I think it will. And as I said, I don't really care if it works as a pen, it's a striking object that I can have in hand while walking to and from my car and it won't draw attention at the courthouse. Thanks.
 
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There is such a thing as "strong enough to use as a weapon" without being "tacticool." There are a variety of affordable "normal" pens that are made of sturdy steel or brass, and would attract less attention than the Mtech. And generally, there is not very much difference between them all in terms of effectiveness.

I say as a person who goes to Maryland courthouses once in a while that they don't strictly prohibit tactical pens as a rule, but there is always a chance of getting a well-informed guard who knows exactly what they are for, and they could make you throw it out. Based on that, I'd avoid pens like this.

There are of course a few other defensive ideas to consider, and one can always carry several things together. The usual: Canes, slender bags with "parking meter change" in them, brass padlocks.
 
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"......there is always a chance of getting a well-informed guard who knows exactly what they are for, and they could make you throw it out. Based on that, I'd avoid pens like this."

That's why I don't want to spend too much. I'm seeing this pen from $12 to $18. If the guards took it from me it wouldn't be that big a deal. I just wouldn't buy another.

So you're saying find a regular looking pen that's made of metal? I'll do some searching. I've never researched pens before. :what: They were always free. :D
 
If you don't have any training a stick pen is fine for jabbing someone.


Your options expand enormously with a little training and you need a much more robust pen to use it for kubaton strikes.
 
Use a walking stick. It is legal everywhere, even on airplanes and there is plenty of info about them on this forum.
 
In terms of tactical pens I try to stay away from ones that have the crenulated bezel. They catch on clothing and can be uncomfortable in certain grips. I still like the original models that are made by Schrade and Smith & Wesson. My favorite is the Cuma Ram pens but they are much more than the other models.
 
Am I the only one that remembers when they used to fire a plastic bic pen from a long gun thru a block of wood and it still wrote? I would think that's pretty sufficient for the task ....and cheap.
 
Am I the only one that remembers when they used to fire a plastic bic pen from a long gun thru a block of wood and it still wrote? I would think that's pretty sufficient for the task ....and cheap.
I'm the OP on this thread, and now that you've mentioned it, I do remember that. But are today's bics as good as bics from 40 years ago? The plastic pens that I have might be strong enough if driven straight in. But if the blow is angled, or hits some resistance, will it break? Don't know that answer to that.
Maybe I should 'borrow' a few company pens and do a little testing. Or if I can find an inexpensive metal pen that has a little length to it (6 inches) and a little girth. Some of these metal pens are really skinny and only 5.25 inches long. I guess I'm on a search for the perfect pen. This is quite a life I've carved out for myself. :rolleyes:
 
There's always the Zebra 701, which is steel, that you can get for $7 at Staples and even some drug stores.

Also, Walmart and other places sell Sharpie markers made of stainless steel for cheap too.
 
I have mentioned before here that I am a fan of the Stanley FatMax permanent markers as an improvised kubaton that goes through courthouse and airport security without a second glance. They cost $ 4 for two markers. They used to be sold at Lowe's, but no longer, at least at the Lowe's in the Seattle area. http://www.stanleytools.com/default...7-314&SDesc=Fat+Max®+Xtreme™+Marker

As an alternative, and in the same area of handtools at Lowe's, are sold the Sharpie construction markers with the plastic barrel and cap.
 
Robust Pen

Your options expand enormously with a little training and you need a much more robust pen to use it for kubaton strikes.

For example, the Embassy Pen, available through CountyComm.com (see here for example).

Chunky, solid, damned near indestructible.

And, as it happens, a very competent writing instrument. They're designed to use the Fisher Space Pen refill. I've been carrying mine for about two years without needing to change the refill.

But the key here is
with a little training
which really does make all the difference.

 
The cheap s&w pen works. I think I have the "m&p" version. I like it for 15 bucks or so. Takes a very common refill and I think it can take Fisher refills. I've carried one all year no issues although I did paint over the s&w logo on the clip.
 
The usefulness "tactical" pens or any other short stick is totally dependent on your ability to quickly and accurately deliver a punch with your body weight behind it. They don't make you a better puncher, they just make your punches better by concentrating the force on a very small hard area. They are sort of like brass knuckles in that you have to be able to box pretty well in order to use them effectively.
 
My Pen/Pencil sets are; 1, Cross sterling silver Century set when I want to look good, 2, Parker Jotter SS set when I want to write a bunch and a Zebra set with a Space Pen refill when I need to have a bit of heft.
The Cross Set is just elegant, the silver has a great feel and they just handle with ease.
The Parker Jotter SS set has some class and the capabilities of a jotter only slimmer.
The Zebra 701 set is just solid.

I normally keep all of them some where around me because the 3 pencils are different sizes, the Parker is .5, the Zebra 701 is .7 and the Cross is .9
 
I love the Embassy Pen line (have Aluminum gen 1 and 2, and a solid steel). Just that they might be a bit out of the OP's price range.
 
The Zebra 701's are the best bang for the buck. I carry cross Silver and Gold sets on Sundays or other offical Ministry or work functions. I carry the 701 to school every day.
 
Another embassy pen user, here. That said, I like the walking stick idea.

As well, I think I'd prefer a mission-designed flashlight to a pen, since both augment strikes equally, but one allows for light to see a long ways, as well as momentary disruption of vision at night.

Unless of course you plan on writing a lot of checks to muggers, instead of cash... ;)
 
Question

Per the TSA site tools http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#7

Tools 7" or less can be carried on and it even specifically mentions screwdrivers, wrenches and pliers.

Wouldnt a 6"-7" screwdriver that has a handle/grip be as good or better than a stout pen?

A wrench would work pretty well as an improvised kubaton and a 6" cresent/adjustable probably work better as a club than a kubaton.

When I traveled for business I always carried at lease a screwdriver and usually a few misc tools in my carry on but that was pre 9-11

Serious questions.
 
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