MV for 357 125 gr JHP?
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R.W.Dale
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I know you are a walking contridiction on this matter so consider your advise taken with a huge bolder of salt
What contradiction!
Just because I posted ONE factory load that meets the speeds you seek and advise against shooting 30 year old data that others are telling you HAS beat the same gun you have to pieces!
Yes the SJHP is that fast. But did you bother to notice all the other loads in that thread that aren't? Well did you?
I've not contradicted anything yet. I still WOULD NOT SHOOT a handload load that far out of line with today's data. I look at data from multiple sources when working up a load including the manual mentioned here. When I have one source giving a significantly higher Max than the others that source is considered AN ANOMALY and disregarded.
My shooting a factory load from a longer barrel than yours changes this not in the slightest
rw,
just fyi, the rest of the data from the speer #11 manual: test weapon is a ruger security six w/ 6" barrel, bullet is a 125 grain soft point, primer is a cci550 (magnum primer), max powder load is 19.5 grains of 2400, muzzle velocity is 1555 fps.
caution: this data was published before saami revised their pressure data in 1992. the above load is probably above current safe pressure levels.
murf
just fyi, the rest of the data from the speer #11 manual: test weapon is a ruger security six w/ 6" barrel, bullet is a 125 grain soft point, primer is a cci550 (magnum primer), max powder load is 19.5 grains of 2400, muzzle velocity is 1555 fps.
caution: this data was published before saami revised their pressure data in 1992. the above load is probably above current safe pressure levels.
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Murf I'm guilty as charged, I have 9 manuals from 5 sources ranging in date from 1976-2002 the Hodgden doesn't have a 2400 load but the rest do and they are all within 1.3gr and 55 FPS on the max load. Interesting is the 1974 Speer is 18.3, the 87 Speer is 19.5 with only a 44 frs difference in MV both from 6" Ruger Barrels. The Nosler still baffles me the most, they claim 1800 fps with only 17grs but they do use a 8.3" test barrel. 17grs was pretty anemic when I tried it and here we are with all this ruckus.
I'm interested in the saami pressure revisions since i have yet to read anything about it, was this across the board or just specific calibers? Was it prompted by failures in low end guns or what we understand to be higher quality?
This has been an entertaining endeavor and in keeping things hopping I may just make a series and call it Apocalypse loads or something like that, maybe next I pull out some of Elmers old books and work on some 44spcl or 45 LC loads, or better yet maybe see if I can hit 1000 fps with a 380 or 1450 with a 9mm
I'm interested in the saami pressure revisions since i have yet to read anything about it, was this across the board or just specific calibers? Was it prompted by failures in low end guns or what we understand to be higher quality?
This has been an entertaining endeavor and in keeping things hopping I may just make a series and call it Apocalypse loads or something like that, maybe next I pull out some of Elmers old books and work on some 44spcl or 45 LC loads, or better yet maybe see if I can hit 1000 fps with a 380 or 1450 with a 9mm
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