My 500 yard revolver quest

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500 Yard Franken-Ruger Revolver Quest.
I have had this goal for some time now, but finally made the time to see it through.
This revolver is a Ruger GP-100 in 357 Magnum that has been customized by Chris Rhodes.
The Franken-Ruger is a free floated barrel that is running through an aluminum shroud. The shroud gives you a place to rest the front part of the handgun that does not change point of impact down range. A free-floated barrel in a revolver.
Is this gun for the traditional revolver shooter? No.
Is it a great set-up for hunting? Yes!
It is very easy and accurate to shoot in field conditions.
That is whole purpose behind the Franken-Ruger, accurate field shooting and hunting.
I had never considered a Ruger revolver for precision revolver shooting until shooting a couple of Bayside’s Franken Ruger prototypes last September. When you shoot 1” groups and under with a revolver at 100 yards, you know you are shooting something special.
My 500 yard goal was for 2 MOA (Approximately 10") or under at 500 yards.
I believed I should be able to shoot 1 MOA (5 inches) at 500 yards because of the way I shot the two Franken-Ruger's in South Carolina.
My beliefs were confirmed in shooting it at 500 yards.
If you check load data compared to the muzzle velocity I am shooting (A moderate load at 1234 fps with the 170 grain Sierra) I am not at max.
It is the combination of the quality of the build, the load, the functional capability of the FR to have two point rest with a revolver, the shooter, and the spotter's ability to call correction - A system's approach to accuracy in the field.
I still plan to take Bog-Gear and run out to 500 yards in 100 yard increments on steel, but I have some other fish to fry before I get to that.
I used a Leupold 2.5-8 Long Eye Relief handgun scope for this project and Burris Signature Zee Rings and added 40 MOA through the ring inserts.
I would have preferred more magnification but the Burris 3-12 LER has hardly no internal MOA to speak of compared to the Leupold 2.5-8, but you can get the Burris with the Ballistic Plex Reticle and it has parallax adjustment.
I was very close to putting a Leupold 4.5-14 (Either a VX-3 LR or a Mark 4 rifle scope) on it.
It is kind of amazing what you can do with lower magnification (8x) if you have a way to consistently bracket something well. 63 MOA for hitting at 500 yards.
Frank Bliss of Extremunition built the ammo for the 500 yard project.
He also set up the steel target, wind flags as we were shooting at his ranch. Both Erik and Frank were spotting for me.
The load was 1.615 coal, (over SAAMI spec) H110/14.6gn at 1234 feet per second, Winchester brass full length resized new brass, Winchester Magnum primers, Sierra 170 grain Tournament Master bullets.
Lee factory crimp (enough to hold the bullet from moving).
Dillon press 1050b.
We loaded till pressure, backed off .1grain chronographed, got spread of 54 fps, then lengthened by .005, chrono'd, and got a spread of 4fps. Oehler 35P chronograph was used to determine speed.
The mirage was hideous and the wind was variable.
Hot, bright and generally a tough condition to shoot in.
We were using a Zeiss and Leupold HD spotting scope and no one could see impacts on the red steel, except for here and there when the conditions let up.
When I was shooting the 6-shot group in the video, we knew I had hit steel the first three times (We could hear the impacts), but we could not tell where.
Conditions let up and Frank saw the three shot group and told me to hold 8 O’clock on the edge of the white target. I did so quickly as possible to shoot in that condition.
The measurement of my hand from shooting finger to little finger is just under 3”. The first three shots on the red steel has a vertical under 4.5 inches.
Sub-MOA shooting at 500 yards with a Ruger revolver…Who would have thought it was possible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcyPO0nPAf0&list=FLfEoqqK-q7iARmKwk742NZg&index=1
 
Very impressive work and groups.

But your hand covered the gun during the whole video. I kinda wanted to see the gun.
 
The two 357 GP-100 FR's I shot in SC had 8" and 10" barrels.
I plan to have this one chopped at some point and have Chris polish the stainless to make everything match. My shroud is SS. He can make shrouds with aluminum (most common), SS or chrome moly.
Thinking about shooting further in the future and will likely use a Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14 riflescope that has their new MOA reticle in FFP.
 
Cool revolver! I like the look of it.

Those are some long shots from any gun!
Really cool. And different.
 
I've seen some 250 yd shots and heard of 400+yards with a revolver, but it was a .44mag. Can you speak to your choice of .357 over .44 for us please?
 
I've seen some 250 yd shots and heard of 400+yards with a revolver, but it was a .44mag. Can you speak to your choice of .357 over .44 for us please?
I can shoot basically as flat with a 357 Mag as I can with a 44 Mag with a lot less recoil.
I have a Ruger Redhawk in 44 Mag, that will become a 44 Mag Franken-Ruger in the future for big game. A 357 Mag works well on deer sized game within it's limits.
 
Welcome. Other reason is when Bayside first started making FR's he started with the the GP-100. First ones I shot were both 357 Mags
 
What a fun project! Thanks for a great write-up, I've been daydreaming of doing something similar. I have a S&W .357 that I routinely shoot at 350, but I want to stretch it out farther.

When using the rifle scope, do you find yourself having to get uncomfortably close to the revolver, or can you use a normal, comfortable hold?
 
It would be great to find out more about that 1,000 yard handgun trophy in the photo and what it took to shoot that far.
 
Ernie, do you shoot XP's also? Guessing because of your name.

What sort of groups will an XP do at that range? Which chambering and load?
 
What a fun project! Thanks for a great write-up, I've been daydreaming of doing something similar. I have a S&W .357 that I routinely shoot at 350, but I want to stretch it out farther.

When using the rifle scope, do you find yourself having to get uncomfortably close to the revolver, or can you use a normal, comfortable hold?
Make sure you are wearing shooting glasses (Which I do) and long sleeves, as you feel some of the cylinder gap and possibly the muzzle brake. IT doesn't bother (Not unsafe for me) me to use a rifle scope on the 357 FR.
 
It would be great to find out more about that 1,000 yard handgun trophy in the photo and what it took to shoot that far.
There is a yearly benchrest match for specialty pistols with several different classes (weight and barrel length).
We shoot 5-shot groups on paper at 500, 750, and 1,000 yards with specialty pistols.
In light pistol my best 5-shot group at 1000 yards is 5.5" (15" MOA Maximum, chambered in 6.5-284). 130 grain Berger's.
Best Heavy Pistol is a 5-shot group at 1000 yards was under 4". 7mm WSM rear-grip specialty pistol. Using 180 grain JLK's.
I have played at distance for a while with handguns of all kinds.
I have shot out to 2000 yards with my SP's.
I now put on a steel shoot (Field shooting-Not from the bench) and prairie dog shoot for handguns only in June.
 
Ernie, do you shoot XP's also? Guessing because of your name.

What sort of groups will an XP do at that range? Which chambering and load?
They can shoot as small of a group as rifles can.
Shorter barrels do not mean, less accuracy.
I shoot XP's at distance in most calibers: .224, .244, .264, .284, .296, .308, and .338.
Some are center-grip while others are rear grip.
 
What a fun project! Thanks for a great write-up, I've been daydreaming of doing something similar. I have a S&W .357 that I routinely shoot at 350, but I want to stretch it out farther.

When using the rifle scope, do you find yourself having to get uncomfortably close to the revolver, or can you use a normal, comfortable hold?
This should answer a lot of questions about using riflescopes on handguns. It is an older article of mine, but the principles are the same. The article relates to using high magnification riflescopes on SP's. http://www.handgunhunt.com/promo/me...d=12&title=Rifle Scopes On Specialty Handguns
 
Hmm, I wonder how a bad guy would react to that being pulled out of a very long holster?

Seriously though, that is gorgeous!

GS
 
This is what comes to mind when I think of long range shooting with a revolver. Iron sights, 5½" barrel and no BOG gear.



 
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