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All of my .40 loads so far have been very accurate; at least as accurate as factory ball and in almost every case more accurate.
This is my first attempt at working up a load with this combination, 180gr Berry's plated flat points, and American Select powder. The 180 gr BERBs have given me good results in the past with other powders.
My loads so far have been:
.40 Berry's 155 HBFP, 5.1 HP-38, and 5.5 HP-38
.40 Berry's 155 HBFP, 5.2 American select 1.24"
.40 MBC IDPA#7 4.0 Red Dot (very accurate in G23/Storm Lake).
.40 180 MBC FP, 4.0 Red Dot
All have proven reliable and accurate.
However my first attempt using American Select and BERB 180 FP is not going well for some reason. Alliant lists 5.1 as max for 180 grain XTP, so I backed off the recommended 10%(ish) and started at 4.7 grains. Feels about the same as the above 5.1 grains HP-38 155 BERB HB load above, and significantly lighter than federal and Lawman ball. I don't have a chrony yet.
No pressure signs, burns clean. However accuracy is not up to stuff; that is to say, I can't hit 8-inch plates at 20 yards offhand every time. I shot several groups from a rest at paper to confirm my suspicions, and accuracy is inconsistent (several random fliers). During the session I also shot several magazines full of the 155 BERB HP-38 load and factory ball back to back and had no trouble hitting the plates. Paper groups for factory and 155 BERB loads were about half the size.
Furthermore, I had several FTF jams, hangs up against top of barrel hood it appears. I've never had trouble with this bullet profile before. Or with any FTF jams that I recall.
IIRC I've always bought the "double struck" option from berry's before; and this time it's not specified. That couldn't be making the difference, could it? Does it possibly just need to be loaded hotter/closer to published max?
Maybe it's time to actually clean my Glock 23? Should I try the factory barrel (I've been shooting the storm lake exclusively because I mostly shoot lead in outdoor competitions and I don't really like the blast/concussion of the ported G23C barrel).
My instinct is to try a few and 4.9 and a few at 5.1 (assuming the 4.9s look okay), and possibly swap out the barrels and see if accuracy improves.
Guess I just wanted to see what you folks thought. American Select has proven excellent in 9mm and passable in .380 and .38 special so far. I like how clean it is. Like most large flake powders it does bridge occasionally in the Lee Pro Auto Disc if you get below about 3 grains (for the .380). You have to really pay close attention to visually check the powder charge each time and weigh charges frequently. I'm going to stick to HP-38 for the .380 in future, I think... if I can ever find any again.
BTW TJconevera has Berry's and Xtreme bullets in stock.
http://www.tjconevera.com/berrys-bullets.html
I'm not a company schill; just a fan. Excellent service and great prices.
All of my .40 loads so far have been very accurate; at least as accurate as factory ball and in almost every case more accurate.
This is my first attempt at working up a load with this combination, 180gr Berry's plated flat points, and American Select powder. The 180 gr BERBs have given me good results in the past with other powders.
My loads so far have been:
.40 Berry's 155 HBFP, 5.1 HP-38, and 5.5 HP-38
.40 Berry's 155 HBFP, 5.2 American select 1.24"
.40 MBC IDPA#7 4.0 Red Dot (very accurate in G23/Storm Lake).
.40 180 MBC FP, 4.0 Red Dot
All have proven reliable and accurate.
However my first attempt using American Select and BERB 180 FP is not going well for some reason. Alliant lists 5.1 as max for 180 grain XTP, so I backed off the recommended 10%(ish) and started at 4.7 grains. Feels about the same as the above 5.1 grains HP-38 155 BERB HB load above, and significantly lighter than federal and Lawman ball. I don't have a chrony yet.
No pressure signs, burns clean. However accuracy is not up to stuff; that is to say, I can't hit 8-inch plates at 20 yards offhand every time. I shot several groups from a rest at paper to confirm my suspicions, and accuracy is inconsistent (several random fliers). During the session I also shot several magazines full of the 155 BERB HP-38 load and factory ball back to back and had no trouble hitting the plates. Paper groups for factory and 155 BERB loads were about half the size.
Furthermore, I had several FTF jams, hangs up against top of barrel hood it appears. I've never had trouble with this bullet profile before. Or with any FTF jams that I recall.
IIRC I've always bought the "double struck" option from berry's before; and this time it's not specified. That couldn't be making the difference, could it? Does it possibly just need to be loaded hotter/closer to published max?
Maybe it's time to actually clean my Glock 23? Should I try the factory barrel (I've been shooting the storm lake exclusively because I mostly shoot lead in outdoor competitions and I don't really like the blast/concussion of the ported G23C barrel).
My instinct is to try a few and 4.9 and a few at 5.1 (assuming the 4.9s look okay), and possibly swap out the barrels and see if accuracy improves.
Guess I just wanted to see what you folks thought. American Select has proven excellent in 9mm and passable in .380 and .38 special so far. I like how clean it is. Like most large flake powders it does bridge occasionally in the Lee Pro Auto Disc if you get below about 3 grains (for the .380). You have to really pay close attention to visually check the powder charge each time and weigh charges frequently. I'm going to stick to HP-38 for the .380 in future, I think... if I can ever find any again.
BTW TJconevera has Berry's and Xtreme bullets in stock.
http://www.tjconevera.com/berrys-bullets.html
I'm not a company schill; just a fan. Excellent service and great prices.