kungfuhippie
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Darwin fixes stupid.
My First Slam-Fire
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Darwin fixes stupid.
BHPshooter
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Darwin fixes stupid.
So I guess I can probably be blamed for robbing Darwin...
Wes
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That's a pretty wild story. Good thing he ran into you.
I always feed junior shooters one 5.56 when I am coaching them offhand so they can experience an AR going off when they drop the bolt. When it happens to them once, they never seem to forget it. The AR firing pin floats and gives the primer a little dink when you drop the bolt.
I'd never load one inside, but I don't run a shop either. Hope the guy takes this lesson to heart.
That's a pretty wild story. Good thing he ran into you.
I always feed junior shooters one 5.56 when I am coaching them offhand so they can experience an AR going off when they drop the bolt. When it happens to them once, they never seem to forget it. The AR firing pin floats and gives the primer a little dink when you drop the bolt.
I'd never load one inside, but I don't run a shop either. Hope the guy takes this lesson to heart.
savetheclaypigeons
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wow, scary situation, good thing the person who loaded the gun was trained to point it in a safe direction. Might be a good idea to get some 'dummy' reloads of every caliber. This way customers can view and compare various calibers and if a barrel needs to be tested...tada! Certainly wouldn't stop treating it as live ammo, but I have a feeling you wouldn't 
Tom488
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Sorry to re-hash an old thread, but I thought I'd share a (somewhat) similar story - with an important lesson re-learned:
My buddy and I were at the range, shooting pistols. I was shooting an XD .45, and he had his well-used Auto Ordnance 1911A1 .45, which we've both shot on numerous occasions before. We're both shooting our targets, stopping, reloading magazines, and continuing. We're both reloading, and I'm only slightly aware that he slaps a magazine into his pistol, and drops the slide.
<BANG!>
I look over at him, and he's got this incredulous look on his face, staring at the pistol. Yep, it slam-fired. We look at each other for a good long second, until he says, "Well... THAT ain't supposed to happen!". Me: "Uh - nope". (I know - I've got such a way with words). While we were both relieved that he had the pistol pointed downrange when chambering a round, we were both extremely aware of what COULD have happened had that not been the case.
So, yes - this was one of those rare times when it can really be called an ACCIDENTAL discharge. Lack of negligence saved him from property damage, personal injury, or involuntary manslaughter.
Afterwards, we both handled the UNLOADED pistol, and dropped the slide several times (still pointed downrange, of course), and a couple of times, the hammer would fall.
After disassembling and examining the pistol, the notch on the hammer was pretty worn. Whereas on a new hammer, the notch forms an almost perfect 90° angle for the sear to enage, the notch on this hammer was worn to maybe 70° or so. The sear, instead of being a nice crisp, squared-off edge, was slightly rounded off. In short, both hammer and sear were "well worn".
Now, I can't answer why the sear didn't catch the hammer at half-cock... it certainly should have (seeing as that's the whole point of the half-cock notch to begin with) - but it just goes to show: NEVER rely on any mechanical safety device. ALWAYS assume the gun will fire when chambering a round. If I only understood that concept at an academic level before, it sure was driven home that day at the range.
My buddy and I were at the range, shooting pistols. I was shooting an XD .45, and he had his well-used Auto Ordnance 1911A1 .45, which we've both shot on numerous occasions before. We're both shooting our targets, stopping, reloading magazines, and continuing. We're both reloading, and I'm only slightly aware that he slaps a magazine into his pistol, and drops the slide.
<BANG!>
I look over at him, and he's got this incredulous look on his face, staring at the pistol. Yep, it slam-fired. We look at each other for a good long second, until he says, "Well... THAT ain't supposed to happen!". Me: "Uh - nope". (I know - I've got such a way with words). While we were both relieved that he had the pistol pointed downrange when chambering a round, we were both extremely aware of what COULD have happened had that not been the case.
So, yes - this was one of those rare times when it can really be called an ACCIDENTAL discharge. Lack of negligence saved him from property damage, personal injury, or involuntary manslaughter.
Afterwards, we both handled the UNLOADED pistol, and dropped the slide several times (still pointed downrange, of course), and a couple of times, the hammer would fall.
After disassembling and examining the pistol, the notch on the hammer was pretty worn. Whereas on a new hammer, the notch forms an almost perfect 90° angle for the sear to enage, the notch on this hammer was worn to maybe 70° or so. The sear, instead of being a nice crisp, squared-off edge, was slightly rounded off. In short, both hammer and sear were "well worn".
Now, I can't answer why the sear didn't catch the hammer at half-cock... it certainly should have (seeing as that's the whole point of the half-cock notch to begin with) - but it just goes to show: NEVER rely on any mechanical safety device. ALWAYS assume the gun will fire when chambering a round. If I only understood that concept at an academic level before, it sure was driven home that day at the range.
My boss took me trap shooting when I was kid and let me use his new auto shotgun (1100 I think). Aimed and pulled the trigger and nothing happened. I dropped the muzzle down and was standing there, finger off the trigger, looking at it for about 5 seconds when, BOOM. Big smoking hole in the dirt about 10 feet in front of me.
Scared the crapola out of me. He started yelling at me till the guy standing behind me told him what happened. Stuff happens some times and muzzle control was sure drilled into my head that day.
Scared the crapola out of me. He started yelling at me till the guy standing behind me told him what happened. Stuff happens some times and muzzle control was sure drilled into my head that day.
entropy
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Time for an overhaul on the 1911. Replace (at a minumum) the hammer, sear, and sear spring. I'd replace the disconnector also.
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