My New EAA Witness Limited .45

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wally

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This was an out of character purchase for me, but boy am I happy with it so far!
One sweet shooitng gun with a great trigger.
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Only came with one magazine and when I priced spares I said no way. No way would I even pay what EAA wanted for the baseplates to convert my existing Witness mags which was more than I'd paid for the original mags! So I ordered some 140mm conversions from Hennings and after shortening the legs of the factory follower I got some nice 140mm 12-round 45ACP mags for the gun.

Important note on the Henning's extensions, they are designed for a "Gramm's spring and follower that don't lock back, I wanted lock back so I did my own thing which worked, but there are two (at least) variations of Witness 45 mags and the one on the right in the photo below will not work with my shortened leg factory followers as the "notch" lets the follower escape once the legs have been shortened enough to load 12 and lock in the gun with the slide closed.
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The ones on the left worked great. Of the eleven EAA mags I had, eight were the "good" style. I've ordered more of the Henning's extensions as they work with my EAA Elite Match and Witness-P as well.



Next I set about modifying some of my Mec-Gars since it was only the baseplates not fitting the magwell that prevented them from working. A few minutes with a Dremel and the sanding cylinder and I was good to go. Shown below are before and after side-by-sides of the EAA bottoms and the Mec-Gar bottoms.
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Still work in the regualar guns if you don't mind the gap (I don't). Henning's had EAA factory followers and baseplates for cheap, so I'd bought extras to return all my mags to stock contition if neccessary. Shouldn't be necessary. From L to R: modified EAA bottom on Mec-Gar mag, Stock EAA mag, modified Mec-Gar bottom, stock Mec-Gar magazine.


Unfortunately you can not use the Henning's extensions on the Meg-Gar mags as they have 10-round limit notches stamped in, presumably so they don't have to run two products for free and non-free states. :(
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Love the way this gun shoots, the extra weight of the full length dust cover and "cone" barrel really makes for soft recoil. One may question putitng a $20 red dot on a $1000 gun+mount but it works well and I had it on hand. Results at the plate rack suggest I could spend a lot more on a sight, but would get no benefit from it.


Of course the experience couldn't be perfect out of the box, EAA/Tanfoglio just lets too many things slide... Had to remove the rear sight blade to be able to disassemble the gun for cleaning without removing the mount. Not that big a deal and obvious from the get go -- a trade off to get as low a profile as practical. Where they screwed the pooch was the mount was just thick enough in front to not let the rear sight base slip under. Removing the entire rear sight would look like crap and I believe the rear sight is the "bottom" of the hole for the firing pin block. A few minutes with a file squared up the underside of the mount so the rear sight body slid thru. Shouldn't need to do this for the $110 they charge for the mount!

You might think the eight screws would be enough to not need Loc-Tite, but you'd be wrong :) I was worried the mount might interfere with ejection but they really designed it well for the Limited's ejection pattern. No stovepipes or dented brass at all. The gun has benn flawless in the first 600 rounds.

--wally.
 
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Wally, even if you can't post a pic that's a good pistol choice. The mags by the way are $75 for 3 direct from EAA. I really like my Match model, very well made pistol.

You need to be hosting the pics off of THR, something like photobucket.com. I looked at the image links you have and they all point to a THR address, which doesn't save images.
 
Has THR changed? Done what I've always done with photos, and I see them in my browser and the links work if I open in new windows.

If THR isn't saving the images why are they showing when my browser views the page?

The Limited has a magwell, and uses mags with an aluminum baseplate that is smaller than the standard bottoms. They want more for the baseplates than I paid for my Witness mags from Reed's.

Was pretty easy to mod the standard base plates to work with the liminted.

--wally.
 
Trying to fix the photos

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See if this works.
 

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Works fine for me; that's a good looking pistol. How hard is it to work the slide with that sight mount?
Nice work on the magazines.
Regards,
Greg
 
Racking the slide is a bit easier than average because the recoil spring is so light (assuming the hammer is cocked), but with the slightly longer slide and significantly heavier cone barrel, recoil and ejection is soft. Very little brass lossage and no stovepipes or brass damage from the mount.

One of my favorite features of the EAA Witness pistols is the fact you can rack the slide with the hammer back and the safety on.

I've no idea what happened to the initial photo upload. I uploaded them again and then updated the links. Seems to work now. I figured something was wrong when I didn't see the thumbnails at the bottom of the initial post, but since I saw the photos (my ISP must run a web cache) I though everything was OK.

They sell a "bolt" to replace the rear sight to ease racking which you'd probably want if you used the non-lockback Gramm's followers & springs.

--wally.
 
Sorry to resurrect such an old thread... but where can one buy the aftermarket followers or baseplates to increase the capacity from 10 to 12 rounds? Or, how do I modify the existing followers? I don't have the weapon in my hands yet, but I will be getting an EAA .45 Witness full size.

Thanks in advance!
 
I have a n00bish question... I went to his site, but under baseplates, all I saw were the models for 9mm and .40 caliber weapons. Where do I get the baseplates for the full size .45 EAA Witness? Mine is not the custom model with the larger mag well, so I want a baseplate that isn't too bulky/odd looking (which I understand the Henning's isn't). Also, how do I modify the factory follower legs so (in conjunction with the baseplate) I can get 12 rounds in the mag? I want to have the full 12 rounds, but I'll modify the factory followers instead of going Gram so I can keep the slide hold open feature.

Thank you!
 
:DWally, that is a great gun, wish I could afford one, but the sight, well,
that's another story.
I have a Witness Match in 38 Super and it is a fantastic gun, my favorite over my CZ's, and my CZ's are great.
Floydster
 
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