my new hideaway knife

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After reading a little bit about them here and other places, I decided to take the plunge and get a Hideaway knife. There are about 300 good pictures at http://www.hideawayknife.com so it seems like a waste of time to post my crappy pics, but I'll do so anyway :D I've never done any sort of knife review, so I probably left a bunch of important stuff out, but please feel free to ask questions.
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A little background: For several years I carried various 3.5-4.5 inch Spydercos and Benchmades. A couple years ago someone gave me a Spyderco Co-pilot. I found that I loved the small size. I pretty much stopped carrying the larger blades at all. The only drawback to this move was that I always had the feeling that the small knife wouldn't be very useful in a defensive situation.

The Hideaway: I was a little unsure at paying $140+ for a little knife, so I started out with the $70 Utility version made out of 440C. It arrived yesterday and I haven't put it down since. This thing is very sharp, as my finger found out about 20 minutes after taking it out of the packaging. The nice lady who runs the company must have known this would happen, because she included a band-aid along with the knife.

The knife was custom fit to my fingers, which means that it fit perfectly but also that it took a couple months to arrive. If you look at the pictures on the website, the knife is designed to stay "in" your hand even if you open it. I find this works very well from a martial arts standpoint (at least for me, as uechi-ryu involves a lot of open palm grabs and the fist doesn't close until ready to strike). You can pretty much put it on and do everything naturally, which again works well for me because I don't have any formal knife training.

The knife comes in a very slim kydex sheath which has pretty much endless attachment possibilities. I made a couple loops with some zipties and wear it on my belt.
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I found ordering to be slightly less than user friendly (I actually did it correctly, I just wasn't sure that I had) but I did receive a prompt and polite response when I emailed about my order. Customer service couldn't be better.

Anyhow, it is a very small package, and now instead of feeling like I gave up something by switching to a smaller knife I feel like I gained something. I've already ordered a Hybrid version. I'm sure this isn't the knife for everyone, but it is pretty much exactly what I had been looking for. If you've been on the fence about it I highly reccomend trying one out.
 
The web site says the utility versions are 440A. 440C is premium steel and not much less expensive than S30V. 440A is fine though, as long as it's heat-treated correctly.

I'm thinking about getting one of these. I'm tempted to spring for the custom version...
 
Middy, please, please show me where I can buy S30V for about the same as 440C. I see a huge difference in prices! One small 1/8" bar alone was $18 for 440C and $42 for S30V! :)

Anyway, properly heat treated 440C will serve you just fine, and Hideaway Knives has built a pretty good reputation.
 
Good pics!

waterhouse:
I think you did a very good job with the photos! Anyway, how can a photo with a P7 be bad?

The HAK V2 is very tempting...a 440C Hideaway Knife Straight for $70, complete with a Kydex "bikini" sheath?

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Happy Veterans Day!
Dirty Bob
LTJG, USNR, USS RENTZ (FFG-46), 1985-1987
 
I never got the poin of those tiny little hideaway knives. Anybody can hide a full sized Bowie in the summer with a little effort. Yes a small blade can tear apart a human, especially when heavy clothing is not present, but a big blade has the added effect of intimidation.
 
<i>"I never got the poin of those tiny little hideaway knives. Anybody can hide a full sized Bowie in the summer with a little effort."</i>

Most states set a limit on the length of blade you can legally carry.
 
Smaller blades have their uses :)

Some states do indeed limit blade length. :fire: A large blade can draw unwanted attention, though, even if it's legal. One nice thing about the HAK is that it really doesn't look like a knife to many people. It can also be "worn" on the hand without sacrificing much in mobility or dexterity.

I have both big and small knives, but the small ones are the knives that I can legally carry. Guess which knives go with me every day?

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
Thats why I carry my 6"+ blades concealed, only to be brought out for self defense (hasn't happened yet,) and a SOG multi tool on my belt. While it is legal to carry a knife of any size in michigan so long as it has only 1 side, the thing to keep in mind in any state is if you don't go and do something stupid and get the police on you, you can't get in trouble.
 
Waterhouse,
I hate to be the barer of bad news but:uhoh: ..... the way I interpret Texas weapon laws that knife even though it is well below legal blade length because of the manner in is gripped could be considered as a "brassknuckle" or in the same class (illegal to carry) as certain trench knives (knives that have a full enclosed handguard with the secondary use as a brassknuckle:scrutiny: .

A local LEO said " I've read the Texas penal codes, housing codes and business laws and have come to the conclusion that it is illegal to live, work & drive in the State of Texas."

kjeff50cal
 
My utility Hideaways are great!

I was going to start a post here myself and see it was already done recently. Waterhouse-me and you were probably on the same list/batch of customers who recently got their HAK's. I bought one to keep at work so I wouldn't have to switch them out all the time, and one for when I'm not at work.

The knife is great, and the places you can put the thing are endless. I also found it a pain to carry the larger fold up knifes, and just stopped doing it. I got the black rivets for work so I can put it inside of a cargo pocket, and only have the rivets showing. I got the "bro clip" for me to use with my jeans, etc and plan on carrying it like "Chaz" from the website when you click on "bro-clip".

I think one utility knife with the sheath, and chain at $70 is a pretty good deal. I agree the ordering method is a little weird, but read the directions carefully, and you can always e-mail with questions and the customer service is excellent. Anyone who is even remotely interested a "smaller" should check out their website, its defenitely work the 5 minutes.
 
1911JMB,

A kife is a lethal weapon and like any lethal weapon should not be used to intimidate, but only drawn when you need to defend your life or that of someone else.

I would agree that a bigger knife is preferable to a smaller knife in a fight, but the knife you have is better than a large knife on the wall. I also agree that carrying a 6 or 7 or even larger knife is completely practical when you know how and had been discussed here before.
 
Kjeff, I've read the laws, and you are certainly correct, they are vague enough to be open to interpretation.

(8) "Knuckles" means any instrument that consists of
finger rings or guards made of a hard substance and that is
designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious
bodily injury or death by striking a person with a fist enclosed in
the knuckles.

Although the knife does consist of "finger rings" and I am sure that if I struck a person it would "inflict serious bodily injury," I feel that a prosecutor would have a very hard time convincing a jury that the little circle of metal on the inside of two fingers is "knuckles." Your LEO friend is correct . . . by the above definition a heavy class ring could be "knuckles."

1911JMB,
I'm sure that anyone can hide a Bowie with a little effort. My goal is to use no effort at all. :D
 
hmm.. i live in michigan and i got pulled over a few years back. they found a knife with a 5" blade i was transporting from my workshop to my apartment (it had never ever been sharpened..duller than a butterknife) i got in trouble. they tried to get me for carrying a concealed weapon (it was in the backseat in a velvet zipped case) but reduced it to carrying a knife over legal limits. which was i think 4" in that jurisdiction....

no fun at all. now i carry a 3" blade
 
added effect of intimidation


Hm...well...hso keeps answering before I get 'round to it. :)

"Mr. Shirley, why did you shoot Mr. Smith on the night of June 28?"

"Your honor, I was in fear for my life. He was an intimidating person, and furthermore, he had a large, intimidating knife, which must be more dangerous than a less conspicuous knife that might have enable him to close the distance."

"Why did you shoot him 15 times?"

"I only had one reload, your honor. As I said, I was very intimidated..."

John
 
1911JMB said:
I never got the poin of those tiny little hideaway knives. Anybody can hide a full sized Bowie in the summer with a little effort. Yes a small blade can tear apart a human, especially when heavy clothing is not present, but a big blade has the added effect of intimidation.

Pulleeeze tell me how to hide a full size Bowie in the summer. I sometimes had trouble concealing a CRKT Plan B (Somewhere around a 3" blade).
 
microtech

I will stick with my Microtech Auto OTF, expensive but can get good deals on ebay for them.

Awesome knife!

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"Rise! Rise and live again!!!

Doing a little thread resurrection, as I was looking at buying one of the hideaway knives recently. For those that have them, do you still like and use them? Has anyone had a definitive answer as to the legality in TX (I try to avoid becoming the test case if at all possibly).

I was thinking this would be a nice addition to my EDC. Especially since it appears I could go hands on (i'm a bjj student), while still retaining the blade. I also noticed they have trainers, has anyone purchased a trainer to drill with?
 
I've had a UHAK for quite a while and it goes just about everywhere with me (which is why I got it). I purchased mine along with the trainer and Southnarc's instructional DVD (all available at the webpage).

The production qualities of the DVD leave quite a bit to be desired (a fact Frontsight readily concedes the packaging), but I still found it useful.

Regarding size - I sometimes carry my HAK on my offside, in front of my magazine carrier as a "cut goofy off yer gun" tool. At a recent pistol class, running weapon retention drills with the trainer, I found the small HAK package to have some distinct advantages over larger blades in the tangle of a gun grab. Of course, everything's a compromise :)
 
I have 3 of them, all Striders. Hybrid, Ti Hybrid and a custom 2-edge back when they were still experimenting designs. Am waiting on a Talonite.

Front Site is a great person to buy from, she sure has the respect of many knifemakers & LEOs. Also quite a shooter from what I hear (she has a tiger-striped H&K P7!)

I carry the custom one all the time as a last-ditch, been on 3 continents around my neck. Would absolutely trust it if I had to, but it is a very "up close and personal" weapon if you ever need it for that.
 
this resurrection is worthless without pictures

Here's the above-referenced UHAK in a Mickey Yurco pocket protection sheath - with assorted "yuppie pocketlitter" for scale :)
 

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The hideaways are nice little knives. I saw a few at Smokey Mountain Knife Works for around $40 and they seemed to be really well made. If I see them on their site I'll post a link.
 
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