My son "busted" for saying "gun" on bus.

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Then ask if "grease gun" is also prohibited.

Or better yet, "caulk gun". Think about how most people don't pronounce the L in "caulk" and you've got two writeups there.

I'm new at this whole dad thing, but if it were me in your situation, I'd be absolutely sure your son knows that when the kid said he didn't do anything wrong, he was right.

I'm sure you've already taken care of this part... but I would say it's more important for your son to emerge from the situation with a correct understanding of who's right and who's wrong, than it is to correct the school system.

This is possibly the only thing I've heard of public schools actively decrying as wrong, and they're wrong to do it. Every other line is blurred but this one, for some reason.
 
Those indoctrination centers are getting worse, turning out scared people who will do anything told them. What they should be doing is writing up and suspending bullies who drive kids to total revenge. What concerns me is little Johnny can't talk about the great hunting trip he had with his dad. They can't touch, hug, be human. If they would of closed the borders we all wouldn't have to worry about all these words. Kids act up, but they shouldn't be arrested.
 
Buy the kid a new lunchbox and t-shirt and play the freedom of speech angle:

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Common Sense

It is pretty obvious,judging from the latest crop of similar stories,that the vast majority of people in our country have little or no common sense what-so-ever. I think the most frightening aspect of this trend is the fact that they can pass laws,vote and reproduce.Erod
 
This rises almost to an all-time high of ignorant. By the way, most principals do not have control over the drivers. The superintendent does, or the director of personnel.

Doc
 
Snagglepuss said:
An astute administrator at is school will put this to rest. Have no fear.
Part of the big problem is that there are far too few of these around anymore. Or were you being sarcastic, Snagglepuss?

This whole thing is ridiculous. Next thing you know, they'll be writing up kids for throwing a half ton of garbage over a cliff on Thanksgiving!
 
Yeah, I got a story about the school board and saying something you shouldn't have too. Not very THR though... But, even though I have NEVER been in trouble, no detentions, nothing, held a 3.2 GPA, had a student with a 4.0 GPA that has also never been in trouble give a written statement that I did nothing wrong, I still ended up on my way towards expulsion. Started with a 10 day suspension, and ended with a recommendation for expulsion.

It happened in February, and because of the recommendation for expulsion, they expected me to go to the school where all the bad kids go in the mean time, that is literally inside one of the troubled areas of town. I probably wouldn't have lasted a day in there without getting put into the hospital.

The word didn't come back from the school board until a few weeks before school was to start for the next semester (end of July) that I was no longer being recommended for expulsion. That was the only word we ever got on the whole situation from either the school or the school board. They stated in the letter that although I was no longer be recommended for expulsion, I was not going to be allowed to return to my school as the other student in the situation was still attending school there (a year ahead of me), and that I would have to contact them to go to a different school in the district.

The school cop and the principal were very secretive about the whole situation, pulling each other out of the office on multiple situations to say something quick, to come back into the room. They kept mentioning it was a "fruit of the forbidden tree" situation or something like that. They told me I should have been arrested, but by the time they were notified, school was already almost over. Yada yada yada.

Mom caught on to the BS at that meeting, and promptly put me into a private school that allowed me to work at my own pace. School from 9-noon for the win! And I graduated early!



Another time, same school, someone threw a CD out of the 2nd floor window, and one of the computer teachers found it. Since the CD said "Microsoft Office" on it, and was obviously a burned copy, the teacher come up to our computer class and held us all there until someone would fess up to who did it. After about 5 minutes, I said "I'll take responsibility." He proceeded to go off about how it is illegal software, this that and the other. I told him, "First of all, you don't have any idea what is actually on the CD, it's cracked, and won't read in a CD player, so you can't find out realistically if you wanted to. Second, there is no serial number for the registration written on it, so no one could actually use the thing if they wanted to, unless of course it was a legitimate back-up copy, which isn't illegal." He then proceeded to tell me that he is going to give me a referral (worse then a detention, this goes right to the dean and I would have to have a chat with them) for possession of stolen software or some crap. I told him to go right ahead. He stormed out the room and I never heard another thing about it, just a couple nasty looks in the hallway.

Just like stated, a lot of these people are on power trips. They know that their word is gold, and the student usually can't do anything about it.

I hope you can do something to help rectify the situation. My mom is more passive, and I wish she would have been more aggressive at the time because I would rather of been able to smile at the police officer at 730 am in the morning knowing I got out of their BS games. Of course, if it never happened, then I wouldn't be where I am today, which I feel I am in a better situation because of.
 
"buy the rockets red glare the bombs bursting in air"
Why don't the kids just sing the National Anthem?

I do agree we are losing freedom of speech.
 
Heavy Metal Hero- It is also quite funny. I am sure your son agrees with me here.
He thought it was funny in the "strange/funny" kind of way. He was worried about getting in "trouble" and shocked as to her reaction.

Chris B- Intune- Is that your band that's linked to in your sig? I like the tunes.
Thanks Chris. Yeah, those tunes are just demos done on a home computer. We have about an hour & a half of originals.

Dave, I'll drop you a line.
 
I think my kid must have been on the bus, he was probably the one that said; “what if I said 'gonorrhea?'”.

Where DO these kids get this from????
 
Once you contact the school administrator this should clear up if the admin has any good sense. Especially if you can get the other parents of the children that were wrote up involved.

I am glad that I am out of the public school scene now and hope that when my children attend that it will be a much better environment.
 
So, if a kid does bring a gun on the bus and your son tells the bus driver "Johnny has a gun in his backpack" does your son get a write-up for saying "gun"?
 
This is how it all started in the UK,the dirty gun word.You may laugh but there are people in your country who would side with the bus driver.Watch out !!!
 
Ask to be shown in writing the regulation prohibiting saying the specific word "gun." Vague generalities do not count. Then ask if "grease gun" is also prohibited.

belay that... ask them where in school policy it says that your kid does not have first amendment rights... have fun with a lawyer from there... oh, and dont reply on a commonsense administrator, those disappeared years ago...
 
Oh, but this does remind me of quite the story...

When I was in High School, I got really involved in Model UN's. First, because I was a world news kind of kid, second because it meant getting out of class. I served two years as a member of the delegation from Cyprus before hitting it big and my friends and I landed France - with it's Security Council seat!

Well, we had developed many years ago a code which only we could read. When we settled in for meetings, we would send notes to each other via the Sergeants-at-arms. These notes, of course, could not be read by anyone but us. Alas, that brought up "official" attention.

Well, I had brought a plastic submachine gun to use as a prop in one of my speeches. I was proud of all my research and planned on quite the stirring presentation. Well, because of our coded messages, the powers-that-be had decided we were going to do a terrorist attack. Alas, when they came into our chambers and asked me to step back to inspect my brief-case, well, I sure looked like I was doing what they thought. Now, remember, this was pre 9/11 and Columbine by more than a decade, so the "official" response was merely part of the game. I was not in any real trouble, and the sergeants-at-arms merely confiscated my "weapon" and allowed me to continue - diplomatic immunity you know. Well, I was really angry because my prop was taken and my presentation screwed. Crap.

After noon, the commander of the Sergeants-at-arms sent me a note asking if we really wanted to perform a terrorist attack. If so, they wanted in on it. They were Air Force JR ROTC and were getting kind of bored. And so, the plan was started.

We spoke with the guy in charge of the Gulf Shores AL civic center building in which the Model UN was being held and got permission to cut off the power. We then worked that evening building a fake bomb and acquiring weapons (the sergeants-at-arms even retrieved my weapon).

The next day, we appeared at the council meetings as usual and had a pretty boring first half. We adjourned for lunch and then began again, and were thoroughly bogged down in Robert's Rules of Order. After about 30 minutes, a girl I had met (and later dated) from another school who was in on the gig stood up and presented a motion for a recess. As this was too soon after lunch, she was told no.

At that moment, all the lights/power went out in the chambers. When they came back on, all the exits were guarded by "terrorists" and sergeants-at-arms while I was at the main podium with another terrorist. The Secretary General was hand-cuffed to the table and I was standing at the podium while my "partner" was passing back and forth in a state of aggitation. I started making my demands in Hans Grueber patience when one of the delegates who was in on the act jumped up and shouted we would be stopped. My insane partner turned and shot him with the loud cap gun he held. The delegate slumped in his chair, "dead." Mr. Insane then pushed me aside and began a rant in classic Khrushchev fashion and we spelled out our demands. A resolution was hastily called to meet our demands and we fled the building.

Oh, it was memorable. We were afraid our history teacher would can us for the whole stunt, but she gave us all A's for making it exciting. No cops were called, nobody got into trouble, and only one guy got his feelings hurt, one of the fellows who had set it all up and was a bit too serious about the importance of Model UN's.

Of course, had this been done today, we would have been arrested and ended up on CNN. At the time, it didn't even get in the local paper.

Alas, those were the good old days.

And yes, everything I have told you is the truth. It took place at the 1990 Baldwin United Nations held at Gulf Shores, Alabama.

Ash
 
Meh. I have a who is a bus driver and he CARRIES his g*n on the bus.

A resolution was hastily called to meet our demands and we fled the building.

Man I'm not gonna lie, that is AWESOME. I'ver done some of that role-playing stuff in HS and the peeps I worked with woulda FLIPPED if I pulled stunt like that. More power to ya.
 
Probably the best way to handle this is by not acting like a drama queen or calling up all bellicose and confrontative. There was already one dominance contest between the driver and kids that resulted in nobody being happy. another one between parents and administration won't help.
Check the student handbook and district discipline policies first. See if this is covered in any way under existing policies. If it is not, calmly bring that to the attention of the administration. If no rule is violated, then there is no penalty. I strongly doubt that, other than profanity, there are any forbidden words in that school district. If there are rules against inflammatory language, then calmly inquire how your son's words were inflammatory.
My guess is that administration will tear up the referrals and the driver will have a conference with her superiors.
 
"And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement."

I can't believe no one has mentioned the twenty-seven 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back of each one...
 
Time to play some Lynrd Sknyrd on the bus.

Something about Mr Saturday Night Special..........
 
I'm not surprised, we weren't allowed to say the word "gun" in school either.

Now my other school, when I was in drama class, our teacher had a bunch of props and I had a shotgun prop that she had reciting a speech, and it was recorded. Apparently it offended a lot of parents and the teacher almost lost her job over it.
 
There are plenty of patriotic and C&W songs whose lyrics contain the word "gun". Time for a sing-along!

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Finally, if the students really want to get the bus driver's panties in a wad, they can sing "We Shall Overcome" as the bus pulls up at school.

Just a note - be prepared to home-school your son through high school if he chooses to participate in the above protest.
 
George Orwell was right. "Thoughtcrime" "Newspeak"
Personally, I would get every kid on the bus to start chanting.

"Gun--Gun--Gun--Gun--..."


We have gone from real guns , to fake guns, to making a thumb/forefinger gun, to drawings of guns, to the word "gun".........
 
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