My son made a gun comment in school...
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I've had a peek behind the curtain of the public school system, and I'm sure with a subject like this, its been run up the flag pole.
Thanks to some of the idiotic policies that schools have these days, any time a parent questions a teachers judgment, they automatically go into CYA mode.
Thanks to some of the idiotic policies that schools have these days, any time a parent questions a teachers judgment, they automatically go into CYA mode.
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Perhaps there is now an attorney involved and the attorney told him to not do ANYTHING gun-related. Don't even talk about it!
Great letter! Wish I could write that well. I remember drawing guns and playing "army" during recess in elementary school. They'd probably put a kid in counseling for that nowadays. Reminds me of the youngwho got suspended from school for pretending a chicken wing was a pistol and Made bang noises. Kid here in DC just got expelled for blowing spitballs out of a pen- they called it a firearm. Crazy world when common sense goes out the window and fear of something as simple as a firearm rules the day.
Great letter but a waste of time and effort. Liberal indoctrination has taken over our schools in so much of our country.
My son was sent home from school back in 2003 for pointing his finger in a "menacing manner" at a school mate. The idea was that he was PRETENDING that it was a gun.
My son was sent home from school back in 2003 for pointing his finger in a "menacing manner" at a school mate. The idea was that he was PRETENDING that it was a gun.
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Let's just hope NavyGuy got sidetracked with something else.
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Sir, I would like to compliment your effort on the well written letter. It is of utmost importance to portray us gun - enthusiast in the positive and responsible fashion. In todays media, Improper gun use, disrespect and gun violence is all to often considered entertainment by are many misguided media and entertainment industries. I find it difficult to understand how they can report and sensationalize a violent tragedy then later have fictional shows displaying scenes of more violence. Its sickening what's be put out.
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I just stumbled across this thread today, and I was happy when I saw the post on the 8th that he got a response, thought I wasn't going to have any suspense. Maybe we should assemble a search party and check the local FEMA camps.
I was in school much to late to have the glory days of setting your rifle or shotgun in the corner of the classroom because you were going hunting after school. I at least was able to draw pictures and write whatever I wanted. I remember drawing bombs, sticks of dynamite, and guns with bullets flying out, it was even in California. I, nor my parents ever got a question about it. Although once I got to middle school I couldn't wear a shirt with any weapon on it, and once I got to high school I couldn't even have a shirt with an iron cross on it, because I went to the school of the notorious 311 boys
. Now a seven year old can't use the word gun and kids get sent home for shirts with an American flag on them.
I thought the letter was fine, and it was admittedly written with a lot cooler head than I possess. I anxiously await the teacher's response and I hope that the conference goes well.
As someone who has gone through the public school system in the last decade, the only real solution that I see for my two little ones, is home schooling.
I was in school much to late to have the glory days of setting your rifle or shotgun in the corner of the classroom because you were going hunting after school. I at least was able to draw pictures and write whatever I wanted. I remember drawing bombs, sticks of dynamite, and guns with bullets flying out, it was even in California. I, nor my parents ever got a question about it. Although once I got to middle school I couldn't wear a shirt with any weapon on it, and once I got to high school I couldn't even have a shirt with an iron cross on it, because I went to the school of the notorious 311 boys
. Now a seven year old can't use the word gun and kids get sent home for shirts with an American flag on them.I thought the letter was fine, and it was admittedly written with a lot cooler head than I possess. I anxiously await the teacher's response and I hope that the conference goes well.
As someone who has gone through the public school system in the last decade, the only real solution that I see for my two little ones, is home schooling.
woad_yurt
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You got us all curious, guy, what's up? You said that you'd post the outcome on the 8th
doc540
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Just don't forget everything you write can and will be used against you regardless of how rational, well intentioned, and legal it is.
xcgates
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As odd as this sounds, if this got escalated (unlikely), it may be for his benefit to not say anything about it.
'Course the least you could do, NavyGuy, is let us know, eh?
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I *did* lock my door, right?
'Course the least you could do, NavyGuy, is let us know, eh?
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I *did* lock my door, right?
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Sorry guys, I got BAD sick and had at least one end of me in the toilet at all times for a few days. I got the letter back, read it, put it on the pantry, got sick, the wife cleaned and threw it away.
So, I can't post it verbatim but the idea of the response was very understanding. She said that she isn't sure which parents view firearms in what light, so letting the parents know makes sense. She has an understanding of how my boys are being raised and agreed that safety is the most important topic. She also made the comment that it seems that they are in the hands of a responsible loving father. The only thing she said that seemed a little unreasonable was that she asked Tyler not make comments on guns in school because of the way other children are raised, and could cause offense.
So, I can't post it verbatim but the idea of the response was very understanding. She said that she isn't sure which parents view firearms in what light, so letting the parents know makes sense. She has an understanding of how my boys are being raised and agreed that safety is the most important topic. She also made the comment that it seems that they are in the hands of a responsible loving father. The only thing she said that seemed a little unreasonable was that she asked Tyler not make comments on guns in school because of the way other children are raised, and could cause offense.
I would ask, "Why would he be too young to shoot a TOY gun? Is there some concern about him handling a TOY gun at the age of 7?"
In response to her second letter, you don't have ANY obligation to tell your child he has to act a certain way to not offend other children that haven't bee raised as well as he has. You are doing just fine without this nosey teacher trying to tell you how to raise your kids.
In response to her second letter, you don't have ANY obligation to tell your child he has to act a certain way to not offend other children that haven't bee raised as well as he has. You are doing just fine without this nosey teacher trying to tell you how to raise your kids.
DWC
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Exceptional response!
May I quote it?
May I quote it?
Creature
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Wow. This makes me very depressed on many levels.
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Personally, I am glad you were sick and that everything was fine (basically) at school.
That is better than your being healthy and sitting in jail - or family services testing your son or whatever it is they do.
That is better than your being healthy and sitting in jail - or family services testing your son or whatever it is they do.
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I think a lot of you guys are seriously underestimating the amount of evidence of abuse needed to take a kid from their parents. This situation isn't even anywhere in the same zipcode.
Good to hear the teacher is receptive to your letter, and it sounds to me like she was just doing her due diligence.
If she handn't been receptive, so what? I'd just ignore it after that. The kid is 7, right? His future doesn't depend on what his second grade teacher thinks of his writing assignment.
Good to hear the teacher is receptive to your letter, and it sounds to me like she was just doing her due diligence.
If she handn't been receptive, so what? I'd just ignore it after that. The kid is 7, right? His future doesn't depend on what his second grade teacher thinks of his writing assignment.
Don't you just love how one is not supposed to make comments because it might offend others? Don't say anything patriotic because some in the class may not like America. Don't pray because maybe there is an antheist who will be offended (100 Christians - 1 atheist - atheist wins), don't say the word gun because someone may be offended - I could go on and on - what ever happened to our rights? Don't want to sidetrack the thread, but our gun rights are slowly being taken away from us, and it's starting in the schools when they're young and impressionable. They carry those teachings on throughout their life. The 2nd ammendment is clear - yet we have to fight everyday for our rights when our founding fathers knew all too well what would happen when a government became too strong. They weren't afraid of guns - they were afraid of government.
I commend you on the handling of the situation at school and wish you well in all your future endeavors. It sounds like your doing an excellent job of teaching your boy responsibility.
I commend you on the handling of the situation at school and wish you well in all your future endeavors. It sounds like your doing an excellent job of teaching your boy responsibility.
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Polite but firm
We need to be polite but yet firm in what we believe and make sure our children and grandchildren are taught the same or the next generation will allow what we are striving for now to perish. We must become more bold in our teaching and demand that our education systems honor our history not destroy the memory of it. Appleseed shoots come to mind- I've not been yet but I hope schedules will allow soon.
We need to be polite but yet firm in what we believe and make sure our children and grandchildren are taught the same or the next generation will allow what we are striving for now to perish. We must become more bold in our teaching and demand that our education systems honor our history not destroy the memory of it. Appleseed shoots come to mind- I've not been yet but I hope schedules will allow soon.
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Students weren't sent home because they were wearing American flag t-shirts, they were sent home for an epic troll of Cinco de Mayo.
Schools aren't saying you can't pray, but that the teachers can't lead the students in organized prayer.
I can understand why she might not want your student to discuss guns with the other students. There's a good chance that she'll have to deal with other parents who are displeased with their children learning about guns. It's rather common that parents will want their children to remain in ignorance about certain topics because of their personal beliefs.
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