My "timber rifle " build

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Well here's my first crack at a "build " thread. It's not much of a build more of simple modifications to improve a cheap rifle. Will post pics and update when additional work is done to the rifle.

Some background:

As many of my east coast brethren can attest ,our woods are dense and most shots are sub 50 yards. My goal was a economical ,nice handling ,some what light rifle that you're not afraid to beat up and hunt hard with. I wanted a short barrel, stainless, synthetic stock rifle for my timber rifle. I'm calling it a timber rifle because many see a brush gun is a big bore lever gun and I don't want to project the wrong image/classification,which is subjective to begin with,so timber rifle is the nick name I gave it.

I sold off my Tikka t3x 7mm-08 with a Leupold vx3i 2.5-8 to a good friend for a fair price. Owed him some cash for a couple sets of tickets,so called the tickets even and still had 600 hundred to play with. Yes the Tikka was a phenomenal rifle,and the setup I had was an excellent whitetail chaser.wont argue there. However multiple trecks this hunting season into the real thick stuff had me wishing for a shorter rifle. Another issue was the length of pull. I found it cumbersome when sitting in a tree stand with my heavy winter gear on. In order to shoulder the rifle you have to push it out and away from you to clear your clothes before shouldering. So I compact stock that's 1.25" shorter really helps with that and shortens the OAL of the rifle.

The rifle I choose was a Ruger American compact. Stainless in .308.price as right,they have a good reputation, the 12.5" LOP and 18" barrel made the rifle 6-6.5" shorter than the Tikka. I chose .308 because it's easy to find ammo,cheap, and does decent in a short barrel.
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Next was addressing some short comings. First thing was smoothing out the bolt. A good cleaning ,proper lube and a few hundred cycles helped that out.

Second was addressing the forearm stiffness and maximize barrel clearance for free floating. Compared to my father's American which had the "t" style supports ,the "x" style webbing of my forearm was stiffer but still left something to be desired. So I decided to kill two birds with one stone,stiffen the forearm and improve the rifle balance. My plan was to epoxy in a carbon fiber arrow with jb weld. I had 3 extra packages of jb weld from work and an arrow that the knock blew out of,so this mod was free.99.

Fist notched out the supports for the arrow. I cut a small 1/8" detent into the recoil lug to ensure a tight supportive fit. I also made sure to rough up all surfaces that I planned on laying the JB weld so it would bond and form a mechanical lock.

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Next I cut the arrow a little long and sanded the tail end to adjust for a tight fit. Also sanded the front end at slight angles to squeeze into the" x" of the cross webbing.
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Next I mixed up my jb weld layed a little in the bottom of the forearm,inserted the arrow,and finished filling with jb weld. Here's the end product . I would have filled the front compartment but ran out of jb. I think the added weight from 6tubes of jb weld help with the balance a bit. The rifle feels much more solid and flexes about as much as my cz 527s wood stock.the flex occures from the thin area near the recoil lug,not the for arm.
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After the JB was all cured I sanded down the barrel channel to maximize clearance. I used 120 grit sandpaper paper I had laying around wrapped around 1/2" pipe. Once clearance was adequate,I sanded with 400 grit to clean it up. Have plenty of clearance now. The stock can be forced to touch the barrel,but it will not occurrence under any normal shooting circumstances. I can fit a business card between the stock and barrel all the way down while the rifle is sitting on a rest.Same goes for a dollar bill folded over itself twice

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Next step was balancing the tail end and making it not so hollow sounding. I thought about spray foam,but I wanted to make sure I liked the balance and did not want it permanent...yet. so I settled on stuffing the stock. I had a bundle of ROXUL insoluation in the basement. For those of you who don't know ROXUL is very dense,sound deadening and fire resistant insulation. Not nearly as hallow and fluffy as the normal stuff.

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I removed the buttpad,to find rugers half attempt at foam filled stocks....
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So I proceeded to stuff and pack the roxul into the buttstock very tightly. Very satisfied with the end result,less hallow sound and a little weight and nice balance.Again a cost of free.99.
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Next on my list is mounting a scope. I choose to use a Weaver classic v 1-3x 20 mm scope. It's been sitting in my safe a while now. It's made in Japan,has nice glass,awesome light little scope for the money . And for my hunting conditions where there are very few shots over 50 yards it's perfect . 1516496969508560520946.jpg
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I ordered a set of Burris zee meduim rings to mount the scope. FedEx never came today so I will post when I get it mounted. Thanks for looking more to come!
 
Overall I like your plan. A short handy bolt gun is ideal for woods hunting. I have one of the 223 compacts and Predators in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. I wanted the more compact barrel on the 223 and bought mine before the Ranch version came out. But the stock was just too short for me. I paid $85 for a full length stock from Ruger and kept the shorter version for the grandkids to use.

That was SEVERAL years ago when they 1st came out, a new stock might be more now. The newer Rugers will take 3, 5, and 10 round AI magazines in short actions. I'm hoping to be able to simply buy another stock and use those magazines in my 308 and 6.5. Not actually in stores yet, so I don't know.

https://ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/specSheets/26974.html

If it makes you sleep better at night that is what matters, but the work to the fore end was unnecessary. I opened all 3 of mine up with sand paper to give a generous free float and did nothing else. I have to work really hard to make the stock touch the barrel, but I can do the same with my $600 McMillan stocks or any factory wood stock as well. Under any normal use the barrel will never contact the stock and I've kept weight down. My 308 Predator with a 1-4X scope on it is still under 7 lbs. I use 2 scopes for it, the 1-4X and a 3-9X depending on the use.
 
Overall I like your plan. A short handy bolt gun is ideal for woods hunting. I have one of the 223 compacts and Predators in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. I wanted the more compact barrel on the 223 and bought mine before the Ranch version came out. But the stock was just too short for me. I paid $85 for a full length stock from Ruger and kept the shorter version for the grandkids to use.

That was SEVERAL years ago when they 1st came out, a new stock might be more now. The newer Rugers will take 3, 5, and 10 round AI magazines in short actions. I'm hoping to be able to simply buy another stock and use those magazines in my 308 and 6.5. Not actually in stores yet, so I don't know.

https://ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/specSheets/26974.html

If it makes you sleep better at night that is what matters, but the work to the fore end was unnecessary. I opened all 3 of mine up with sand paper to give a generous free float and did nothing else. I have to work really hard to make the stock touch the barrel, but I can do the same with my $600 McMillan stocks or any factory wood stock as well. Under any normal use the barrel will never contact the stock and I've kept weight down. My 308 Predator with a 1-4X scope on it is still under 7 lbs. I use 2 scopes for it, the 1-4X and a 3-9X depending on the use.

So being new the mine should accept AI mags? If so thanks for the info good to know.

And yea I know I didn't have to do forearm work other than a little sanding. Read alot on it before jumping into it .however it made for a fun project, gave me a piece of mind,and i like the little extra weight and solidness it added.
 
one of my favorite woods-timber rifles, light,short and accurate as you can see with my reloads. rem 7600 carbine in 3006 with a 2x7 leupold scope.
 

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Bones741

Like the mods you did and good tutorial with all of the step-by-step photos! Hope it performs well for you on your next hunting trip.
 
Bones741

Like the mods you did and good tutorial with all of the step-by-step photos! Hope it performs well for you on your next hunting trip.

Thanks. I did the step by step for folks like me that do alot of searching before they tackle something. It's nice to have a kind of guide when attempting something for the first time rather than having some one say " I just epoxied an arrow in it for stiffness".

I plan on painting the stock when the weather gets warmer. Tossing around the idea of hydro dipping it in camo/earthy colors for something different.

Here's a video of a home version I found on youtube that had good results. Iittle *bubbaish* but it had a nice end result. Skip to 2:20 if you want to get to the point
 
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I have two left hand Ruger Americans a full size .243 blued a compact ss 7mm-08.The compact does work nice in the thick stuff.The one thing that would make it better IMHO is if the safety would lock the bolt.
 
Nice work, Bones. Looks like a timber rifle extraordinaire. Like the optics choice also as my woods (timber?) rifle ( Marlin lever 30-30) wears a 1-4x and my 12 ga. slug gun has a 2.5x. Lots of "X"'s are useless in timber. The lower power stuff also gives you a wider field of view which can sure come in handy. Thanks for all the photos, too. Someday when it warms up maybe we can see how the stock painting comes out and you can post on how it shoots. I'm thinking that you're on the right track stiffening that stock up like that and that it will be worthwhile in the accuracy department.
 
Before you try dipping your stock you might want to check with someone that knows if it will work or not.When I was doing the paperwork on my compact I mentioned that I was thinking about getting it dipped.He said that he did dipping and the Ruger stock wouldn’t dip very well because of the indents on the stock. I don’t know if it’s true or not. I asked on another forum and nobody knew.Maybe someone on here knows I’d like to get mine done if it will work
 
Before you try dipping your stock you might want to check with someone that knows if it will work or not.When I was doing the paperwork on my compact I mentioned that I was thinking about getting it dipped.He said that he did dipping and the Ruger stock wouldn’t dip very well because of the indents on the stock. I don’t know if it’s true or not. I asked on another forum and nobody knew.Maybe someone on here knows I’d like to get mine done if it will work

That's a good point. I was thinking if I do it I'd sand it down with something like 220 grit and give it a coat or two of good primer. I'll have to see what I can dig up. Thanks!
 
I did something similar. I got the RAR predator model in 308, w/ 18" barrel. I switched the stock out form a laminated one from Boyd's, which it dropped right into. The muzzle is threaded, so I added a surefire muzzle brake to tame it down a bit. For a scope, I used a vortex 3-12.
 
I did something similar. I got the RAR predator model in 308, w/ 18" barrel. I switched the stock out form a laminated one from Boyd's, which it dropped right into. The muzzle is threaded, so I added a surefire muzzle brake to tame it down a bit. For a scope, I used a vortex 3-12.

I was really thinking about a Boyd's. I had a thread inquiring about theirs fit (think you responded there) . They are really are sweet looking. I ended up holding off for two reasons. One didn't want to cough up 250 beans and not like something about it,and second they only offer 13.25" LOP as their shortest option and LOP was one reason for selling the Tikka. Did the Boyd's seem to add alot of weight?
 
I was really thinking about a Boyd's. I had a thread inquiring about theirs fit (think you responded there) . They are really are sweet looking. I ended up holding off for two reasons. One didn't want to cough up 250 beans and not like something about it,and second they only offer 13.25" LOP as their shortest option and LOP was one reason for selling the Tikka. Did the Boyd's seem to add alot of weight?
It added weight but didn't make it unmanageable. In fact, I like the weight that it added, as it feels more "solid" and helps with recoil. I got the forest camo model. I also installed one of their black pepper laminates on a 243 700 sporter, which I also like very much.
 
Well my rings finally came tonight so I mounted them up. Went with a set of Burris Zee rings. Choose meduim height because when I pull the gun up,my eye bubbles line up the best with meduims vs lows. Snapped a few pics and added one next to my Benelli supernova 28" for scale ,kinda funny. Also put on a buttler creek sling .think it's called the ez rider?? Anyways they're cheap and super comfortable,have them on a few guns.

With the the scope mounted ,butt stock filled and forearm filled/stiffened the gun balances right at the magazine. The little added weight and stiffness made this rifle feel alot more solid,very happy with it this far. Cant wait to put some rounds down range. KIMG0285.JPG KIMG0286.JPG KIMG0289.JPG
 
I like the concept and found your build techniques, photos and ideas interesting.

I have five "timber rifles": a Ruger International bolt-action carbine, chambered in .308 Winchester and having a Leupold VariX II, 1x4X compact scope; a Savage Model 99 lever-action "Brush Gun", chambered in .358 Winchester and having a Redfield "WideField", 2 3/4x5X scope with a Weaver "Pivot" style mount; a Winchester (Miroku) Model 1886 "Extra Lightweight" lever-action rifle, chambered in .45-70 Government and having a Williams "FoolProof" receiver sight; a Winchester Model 94 carbine lever-action rifle, chambered in 30-30 Winchester and having a Williams "FoolProof" receiver sight and an early, fifties-era Remington Model 760 pump-action rifle, chambered in 30-06 Springfield and having a Williams "FoolProof" receiver sight.

Timber rifles are cool! :thumbup:
 
The one thing that would make it better IMHO is if the safety would lock the bolt.

I agree. I'll never understand why Ruger didn't put their fine three-position safeties on the American series or even the two-position safety that locks the bolt when on "safe" that came with early Model 77s. A safety on a bolt-action rifle that doesn't lock the bolt shut when on "safe" isn't necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me but it's a consideration.
 
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