My world

[BULLSI]

I live on a street that isnt very good. I dont play with the neighbors at all and they dont play with me I like it like that. Lived here for fifteen years. The other night (thursday) I leave to go to work at midnight I roll up the the stop sign which is just up the street and there is the group (maybe 8-10) of wanna be gang bangers (that is what they think they are - punk [] kids imo) that hang around my street, their at the corner house this night. Ok I had my window all the way down to back out the driveway and left it down, roll towards the stop sign and I look over and one of the punks act like they are going to throw something at me. I big baseball pitch. When something like that happens for the most part you think a brick is comeing your way for the most part for lack of arguement most people would (rodney king riots with the truck driver is my first thought).

Ok nothing happened. The Question - in your opinion - If it did would I be able to defend myself? I think that I could if it actually happend. And may very well have to with these punks.

Hypothetical speaking now. I was hit couldnt see straight and they try to pull me out of the car because I had stopped (wasnt at the stop sign just yet still rolling up) but if got hit probably would hit the brakes by reaction. I dont know maybe take off If I could. It is a new truck dont want to crash it with a brick sticking out the side of my head. If they just hit the truck back up and high beam em to identify the attacker call the cops right away keep the attacker in sight which way he goes etc. etc.

Im thinking hindsight 20/20 thinking of what I need to do to not be a victim to these punks. I know it is all subjective and who knows what could happen and what a person is going to do - how it all ends up. But you need to be proactive and not reactive and have a plan.

What disturbed me mostly was it was dead silent and that is when it is scarry. That is when they all stop talking smack and are paying attention to what is going to happen. I honestly think that the crackhead had something in his hand and that he didnt release it but to show off and have everyone look at him for laughs whatever. You know whatever watch this fellas. The second thing that disturb me was I had my carry peice iwb at four oclock and was seatbelted in which I can tell you will be at the ready from now on as you cant get to it very quickly when it is like that.


Back story - I have heard them (the punk [] kids) to hit a pregnat girl (four-five months pregnat) that was visiting my neighbors that live upstairs in front of my house had heard gunshots, fights, a guy flashing a gun(called the cops on that one - no the cops didnt get him even when I told them which way he would run as it was the guy that lives right across the street). Just about everything has happened around here. At the start of this week the neighbor that lives upstairs was jumped and hit with a brick and beat down by twelve of them. By the stop sign is where it happened, I learned of this last night after they acted like they were going to throw something at me, when I was up there talking about it to my neighbors. This is a girl. There were males involved in the beat down. The cops were called and my neighbor was arrested because it was twelve witnesses against one.They said that my neighbor attacked them she has a black eye still and was bleeding after the attack but the cops arrested her.

Well that is my world and just a gimpse of what goes on around here. As the punk [] crackheads get older they are getting bolder with the violence. I would move if I could but cant and wont let myself be a victim to sensless violence.

And right now I am going to go finish hooking up the rest of my cameras around my house. I finally got the part to finish it last week. I will have eight cameras working. All activate by motion. all entry point are covered and you can not walk aroun here without getting on tape. I honestly believe that some day these punks will try to break into my house and I plan on catching them in the act. They did it to my neighbor directly next in broad daylight last year, I called the cops on that also and they got caught. Who will be around to call for me is what I think. I recommend getting cameras around your property as mine have already been an asset remember the pregnant girl they were caught on tape, the actual assault wasnt but it still places the perp at the scene.

 

[conw]

The best move in situations like this is not to set yourself apart from the guys too much. Sure, you prob look diff, maybe you're a diff race, but you'd be best off just biting your tongue and saying "what's up guys?" etc when you see them. Remember, nothing's happened yet and you aren't going to make it any worse by playing dumb and friendly. They might be cool with you if you did.

Second, I'm detecting a lot of pride and maybe even kind of a vigilante bent. You and me both know you could have high tailed it in your car, you just didn't want to lose face. Ok, that's over and done, but the next mistake you make because of pride could cost you a lot.

Now, one more thing, what's illegal about flashing a gun? Did you know the guy was a convicted felon? By THR standards, calling the cops on someone "flashing a gun" in his own yard or off your property sounds like a nosy neighbor with too much time on his hands. Again, check your mindset regarding these kids. You may be half the problem if you're giving them looks, etc, etc.

Cameras good, talking to the cops good, just work on the mindset. Don't have a chip on your shoulder.

 

[BULLSI]

Oh I know that when you type a post on the internet you dont get the whole story most times. That is ok I guess sometimes it does draw conclusions that arent correct. Im ok with that and recognize it.

The guy with the gun was standing in my neighbors yard that lives on the other side of my house not the one that they tried to break into. The house in unoccupied and this was a time when they would hang out on these empty houses porch and party and raise hell. I watched the guy for about fifteen minutes mostly because to make sure it was a gun it was dark before I called the cops . Wanted to be correct. Everytime a car drove by he would hide it behind his right leg when the car drove by. After a couple of cars it was definetly known that it was a gun and this happened about 0130 in the morning.

and I may be a nosy neighbor to a point I'll admit that but I am only nosy when a bunch of bull crap is going on around here but that nose did prevent a break in one day which because of my dog barking made me look out the window. The rest of the punks was smokeing weed in the street with a one year old kid/ baby standing there in the middle of the street. They are the ones that told the punks breaking into the house that the cops were comeing and took off running. So yeah I may be nosy.

 

[conw]

Hey, didn't mean to sound overly harsh. I support you and I get the type of neighbor you're dealing with. But it might be a better idea for you just to take a deep breath and let them mistreat their kids and all that crap without getting dirty looks from you. Trust me, nothing makes me madder than people flaunting the law and mistreating kids to boot. Nothing. But I'm not a cop and I can't go toe to toe with all those bums out there.

Maybe they are just randomly picking on you a little, but like I said, being a little friendly (not saying have them over for tea ) could help the situation. These type tend to have a mob mentality and their minds can be changed and manipulated pretty easy. Just figure out something they relate to and chat every few days if you see them out. Does your area have a pro football, basketball, hockey team? Just find some neutral ground and talk to them enough so they don't want to pick on you. If that doesn't work you're already doing the other stuff right.

 

[BULLSI]

These type tend to have a mob mentality I will have to agree with you on that. That is the problem or could end being the problem who knows right.

I dont know if you were harsh didnt put alot of thought into that aspect just replying to someone I dont know on the putor.

I dont play with my neighbors so I wont be takeing them to any football games or anything like that. If they are social with me I can be jsut as social back. As far as dirty looks it was dark and you really couldnt see the expression on my face. What you may be going on is the fact I had my window down. I think. I am sure that they decided to frak with me the moment they seen me pull out of my driveway. And by that acting like they were going to throw something at me. As far as I was concerned I was just a guy driveing down the street.

 

[psyopspec]

They pretend to throw a brick at you and you're in a vehicle - hit the gas and get away.

They actually throw a brick at you and you're in a vehicle - hit the gas and get away, then call 911.

They flash a gun at you and you're in a vehicle - hit the gas and get away, then call 911.

See the pattern? And I'll go ahead and assume you're already driving with doors locked whenever in your vehicle. The CCW may be comforting, but in a car you've got a lot more in the way of shelter, maneuverability/means of escape, and a weapon if needed (2000 lb missile...). You should be thinking of it as your "primary" when you're inside it.

I would move if I could but cant and wont let myself be a victim to sensless violence.

That statement is a little contradictory. By continuing to live in a crappy neighborhood where violent crime is the norm, you certainly have a higher than normal potential for being "a victim of senseless violence." Think hard about if you really need to stay. Even if you don't move far away, there's got to be better parts of the city in which you reside. If you decide you can go, well that's not as big a deal as some would make it. It took me 14 hours and 80 dollars in gas money to move from ND to CO - not a whole lot in the way of money or time.

 

[conw]

I dont play with my neighbors so I wont be takeing them to any football games or anything like that. If they are social with me I can be jsut as social back. As far as dirty looks it was dark and you really couldnt see the expression on my face. What you may be going on is the fact I had my window down. I think. I am sure that they decided to frak with me the moment they seen me pull out of my driveway. And by that acting like they were going to throw something at me. As far as I was concerned I was just a guy driveing down the street.

I understand you not wanting to really get to know these people. That's fine and all. My point was just that you could shoot the breeze once in a while. Catch them when there are just 2-3, not 10-15, and say "How about that football game last night??"

I thought you had kind of an ongoing, escalating tension. I meant maybe they picked up on your body language as hostile in days or weeks previous and that's why they decided to pretend to throw a brick or whatever. I was just suggesting you not give them any provocation through body language...which can be hard.

Recap, basically, is just: don't have hostile body language (staring them down, shaking your head when you see them, slowing down when walking by but not stopping to talk, etc). 10-15 people will win a pissing contest every time, so don't get into that mindset. I know you don't want that, but you have to not let them turn it into that too.

You'd really be surprised how a friendly word or two can defuse things in a situation like this. They may find someone else to pick on, but at least it won't be BULLSI.

 

[BULLSI]

No its not an ongoing thing but since they beat up the girl that lives above me they think that they might give me a try and mess with me I guess. Im just not interested in being some form of entertainment for them.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

There is nothing wrong with driving around or away from them. Or, if necessary, over or through them.