Mystery rifle round

[donttellthewife]

This mystery rifle round was picked up in the dud can at a local range, by my non-internet savvy neighbor. He had already pulled it apart when he showed it to me and had already dumped the powder / gun cotton / cordite ???
I haven't measured anything yet but can if it will help. I will have to find a magnifying glass to read the headstamp.



Here are the pictures

 

[dpart77]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52mm_Mannlicher-Carcano



6.5x52mm Carcano or 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano


Maybe???

Complete guss.

 

[Crazy Fingers]

I never thought I would say something as odd as this, but that is the ugliest bullet I have ever seen.

 

[janobles14]

im going with the 6.5 carcano. close up of the headstamp would work

 

[donttellthewife]

He has two other rounds that have not been disassembled, are these a collectible type round.

 

[janobles14]

its a 6.5 carcano round. from a government arsenal in bologna, italy. inspected by a man named alfredo cavalli around 1911-1921 or so.

not sure just how rare they are but most vintage military rounds are worth something at least. dont know if we are talking big bucks or not.

 

[Remo-99]

Appears to be somekind of specialist round to me, maybe subsonic (there ain't much room left for powder in the case, after the bullet's seated)

The rifle that fires it must need one helva twist rate, if ya ask me. lol

 

[Afy]

its a 6.5 carcano round. from a government arsenal in bologna, italy. inspected by a man named alfredo cavalli around 1911-1921 or so.

not sure just how rare they are but most vintage military rounds are worth something at least. dont know if we are talking big bucks or not.

How on earth do you know that....

 

[NavyLCDR]

not sure just how rare they are but most vintage military rounds are worth something at least. dont know if we are talking big bucks or not.

The rounds inspected by Antonio Bull****tia in 1922 are much more rare and worth a whole lot more. Antonio died in the Bologna ammo factory in February 1922 when a stray ash from his cigarette fell into the waste gunpowder bin.

Edit: Interesting... TheHighRoad has an automatic censoring program....

 

[donttellthewife]

All the answers lie within


http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/ammo/history.html

Multiple Ball/"Cartuccia a mitraglia"
There are two types, both use the standard cartridge case and contain a very long (about 2"/50.8mm), however it is seated deep and the overall length of the cartridge is the same as a ball round) bullet that is made of a jacket with closed bottom and open top with 3 (or sometimes 4) slits cut lengthwise through its sides, inside are 6 clyndrical lead slugs stacked on top of each other. It uses a reduced powder charge. In the older style the top slug is actually a small full metal jacket bullet. In the later type, the top slug is lead and the lead tip is exposed at the top of the bullet. The later type seams to have come out about 1937. This was a round for short range work (it would be an excellent choice for a sentry on night duty), its effective range was likely less that 50 yards, and its effect is like a small buckshot charge. These cartridges are not rare, so they must have been issued in fairly large numbers.

A bullet with "balls"

 

[rondog]

I may not have seen everything yet, but I'm getting closer.....

 

[MMCSRET]

The 6.5 x 52 rifles had gain twist rifling. That explains the "weird" bullet configuration.