jcwit
member
Thank God!
Absolutely.
N.R.A.
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Thank God!
Absolutely.
j2crows
Member
I belonged, (30 years ago) to a gun club where there was real peer pressure to join the NRA. I was a member for 5 years until I moved to another state. Guys that weren't NRA members were treated a little different. One thing that sticks in my mind is...If you weren't a member the secretary would always "forget" to notify non NRA members when the gate combo was changed. Now, I haven't been an NRA member for a long time but I will defend most of the things they are doing, as good. I remain quite active as a gun advocate through e-mails and personal meetings with state reps'. on gun and hunting issues. So I strongly feel that you don't have to be an NRA member to have the, "fever" about gun issues. Members and non-members, stay on your toes. Make your voices be heard.
The NRA is not interested in fully free gun laws. They're more interested in schemes that would require NRA run education to have your firearm(funny how those classes aren't free either). They also seem to take up the stance primarily that guns are for playing, whether that's recreational hunting or target shooting competitions. I don't own guns for toys, I own them for self defense first and second. Yet they would be fine to trade my right to own my weapons for self defense for a permission slip that I have to jump through hoops to obtain, pay money, and volunteer to be on whatever list the federal law enforcement agencies feel gun owners belong on.
Separate from their issues any organization with the dogma that I "owe" them my money because they advocate for something I do isn't getting a damned penny from me. I don't appreciate this sense of entitlement that older folks yell about my generation possessing, then turn around and spout that I owe them this that and the other thing.
So no I do not and will not support the NRA.
Separate from their issues any organization with the dogma that I "owe" them my money because they advocate for something I do isn't getting a damned penny from me. I don't appreciate this sense of entitlement that older folks yell about my generation possessing, then turn around and spout that I owe them this that and the other thing.
So no I do not and will not support the NRA.
Justin
Moderator Emeritus
Can you site one single instance in which the NRA has advocated for universal safety classes in order to own a gun?
No, seriously. Please feel free to provide documentation in the form of links to articles from verifiable and trustworthy sources.
Also, the NRA does plenty to focus on firearms for defensive uses. I daresay that most of the classes they offer are designed around using a firearm effectively for personal protection, and in every magazine they publish every month there are at least a couple of articles about using guns for personal protection, to say nothing of the recurring column entitled The Armed Citizen which highlights successful cases of personal defense with firearms every single month.
If not for the NRA, your ability to own handguns would not exist. Your ability to own an AR15 would not exist. You would not be able to exercise the right to carry a concealed defensive gun in 48 out of 50 states.
I'm 32, so that hardly counts as making me "older," but frankly, you don't know what you're talking about. Regardless of whether or not you think it's worthwhile to join the NRA, the only one here with an entitlement mentality is you.
jcwit
member
Is that why they offer conceal carry products at their store?
Mayhap you should do some research before speaking?
Just remember the rest of us who are members will carry you on our back, we'll try not to let you down, but who knows what the future holds?
Would it be possible for you to reconsider?
jcwit
member
This has been discussed and cussed over and over, both by those that wish to support our sport and have it continue, and keep it growing, and those just like to ride on the tails of active responsable folks.
It something like having a work detail at your local range, ever notice it the same ones that show up to give their time, energy, and funds while the rest benifit from those few. The same was true 40 years ago when I was a Scout Master trying to get the parents involved or needed help with a few drivers.
Seems like its always the 5%--10% who manage to contribute or help any organization.
It something like having a work detail at your local range, ever notice it the same ones that show up to give their time, energy, and funds while the rest benifit from those few. The same was true 40 years ago when I was a Scout Master trying to get the parents involved or needed help with a few drivers.
Seems like its always the 5%--10% who manage to contribute or help any organization.
Nushif
Member
Incredibly divisive and inflammatory. "The world has two people in it. The ones I agree with and the ones who I am calling inactive and irresponsible."
People have, at times, very good reasons for doing what they do. And even if they don't agree with you doesn't mean they're irresponsible or ride others coat tails. Hate to say it, but the whole "either you're with us or you're against us" is not very good for getting people involved.
jcwit
member
Oh, I realize there are other folks out there but I wish not to bring up politics.
See the last sentence of post #56.
BTW, point out just where I stated anyone is against me? Stop attempting to twist my words to serve your purpose.
RyanAnchors
Member
Weird since the NRA has been lobbying in every state in the country to adopt their model Castle Doctrine policy because a lot of places have crappy self-defense laws that put YOU at risk of a MURDER CHARGE for defending yourself.
They have been pushing it and succeeding, so to say they don't care about self-defense is ignorant and misinformed.
They have stated openly that the Second Amendment exists mostly to combat oppressive government. If you call that "playing", then idk what to tell you.
I can tell you that none of you or these other groups like GOA will ever be invited to come to a UN meeting in DC, get on the microphone, look every representative from every major country in the world in the eyes, and tell them they can go screw themselves if anyone messes with our 2A.
If you have that level of access and power, then you are free to think the NRA is unnecessary. Until then, I just think people that don't donate to SAF and NRA aren't doing their part...
If you don't like NRA, at least donate to SAF. Thank them for Heller and McDonald and help them continue to buy Alan Gura new lambos and houses for smashing the courts and the antis over and over again in litigation.
They have been pushing it and succeeding, so to say they don't care about self-defense is ignorant and misinformed.
They have stated openly that the Second Amendment exists mostly to combat oppressive government. If you call that "playing", then idk what to tell you.
I can tell you that none of you or these other groups like GOA will ever be invited to come to a UN meeting in DC, get on the microphone, look every representative from every major country in the world in the eyes, and tell them they can go screw themselves if anyone messes with our 2A.
If you have that level of access and power, then you are free to think the NRA is unnecessary. Until then, I just think people that don't donate to SAF and NRA aren't doing their part...
If you don't like NRA, at least donate to SAF. Thank them for Heller and McDonald and help them continue to buy Alan Gura new lambos and houses for smashing the courts and the antis over and over again in litigation.
jcwit
member
Well Put!
Check this out if you think they "The NRA" is not helping.
Check this out if you think they "The NRA" is not helping.
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Point4orLarger
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"Out Of State" gun-licensing and NRA
Does the NRA training course serve out the requirement of "gun education" needed to get licensed in other states than my own? Re: reciprocity. If so, you loyal NRA members should spread the word about it. That alone wold bring MANY on-board.
Does the NRA training course serve out the requirement of "gun education" needed to get licensed in other states than my own? Re: reciprocity. If so, you loyal NRA members should spread the word about it. That alone wold bring MANY on-board.
mortablunt
Member
I haven't yet joined the NRA due to stigma and finances. I have also found that not being a member definitely helps to convert some antis. NRA is a dirty name where I am.
As far as "stigma" goes, whose job do you believe it is to CHANGE the stigma the NRA has? Their public relations director.....or responsible gun owners promoting the ideals of the 2nd Amendment and safe gun ownership? Stigma is NO reason NOT to join. Its a reason why you SHOULD join. An organization is only as visible as its members. YOU can change public perception of what the NRA is with your own actions. furthermore, wha the NRa does as an organization dwarfs the impact i could have on the anti-gun movement on my own. If I have the choice of "coverting a couple antis" and supporting a huge organization that spends millions of dollars to defend my way of life against those intent on destroying it....well, as much as I'd like to do both, supporting the NRA ranks as far more important to me in the grand scheme of things. i was taught if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. Thats why I'm a vocal supporter of my 2nd Amendment rights and the NRA, "stigma" be damned. Chances are, if I'm shut out of something because I'm an active member of the NRA...chances are, its not a place I belong to begin with. A gun owner afraid of the stigma of being a gun owner is of little help to the gun rights movement, IMO
Justin
Moderator Emeritus
If you support RKBA, the easiest way to do so is to join the NRA. If you don't join the NRA, there are other ways to show your support, but you better be willing to show your work.
Don't feed the prejudice of ignorant people. I've been working for nra.fi for almost five years, pro bono, and the single biggest obstacle has been anti-people who "know" what NRA stands for and is all about. It's incredible what kind of <deleted> I hear on a regular basis.
Support your local/national RKBA organization. That's where the real power to influence the legislation is, in addition to making your vote count, of course.
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Apocalypse-Now
Member
i got the free NRA membership. money well spent.
i did the free membership at first too, just to "test the waters" but two weeks later, i did the full membership, im all about saving a buck. but in the end, the free membership really dont do anyone any good? and i didnt feel like a member anyway, no member i.d. no benifits, no i.d. card, no decals, just puts you on the mailing list and lets you read a digital copy of one of the magazings. i wanted to contribute, i wanted to see my money go to something, i wanted to see what there doing and really think/say "i helped contribute to that" even as minute as my money is in the grand scheme of things.
i urge you to go ahead and get the full time, its $25-$35 for a year. thats less then a good holster.
it givess you $1,000 insurance on your firearms
$5,000 accidental insurance for you
reduced hotel rates
just to name a few. trust me, go to the beach or were ever a couple times and you can "make" your money back.
but i like that you at least took an interest, its a step in the right direction!
Apocalypse-Now
Member
sure does. got me a discount on a bunch of ammo at cabela's during their NRA weekend sale. also gets me NRA discounts at hotels, and everywhere else NRA member discounts are available.
Smokey in PHX
Member
Been a life member for somewhere around 30 or 40 years. I do not always agree with everything they do but overall it is a good organization. If they were never in existence we would probably not have all the freedoms we have currently. I have always encouraged people to join the organization.
Fred in Wisc
Member
We in Wisconsin never would have ended up with the concealed carry law that was just passed without the NRA hammering on the legislature. Kudos to them for a great job gathering support from both political parties.
Did the free membership, then upgraded to a multi-year regular membership.
Their emails regarding upcoming legislation and easy "contact your legislator" links (enter your address and it looks up who your representatives are for each issue) make it very easy to reach out to the appropriate politicians at the appropriate times.
Did the free membership, then upgraded to a multi-year regular membership.
Their emails regarding upcoming legislation and easy "contact your legislator" links (enter your address and it looks up who your representatives are for each issue) make it very easy to reach out to the appropriate politicians at the appropriate times.
JustinJ
Member
"sure does. got me a discount on a bunch of ammo at cabela's during their NRA weekend sale. also gets me NRA discounts at hotels, and everywhere else NRA member discounts are available. "
Will you not pay because you don't support the NRA's actions? If so even your free membership is being used to advance those actions. For example if they quote their membership numbers to the media when promoting a specific issue.
Will you not pay because you don't support the NRA's actions? If so even your free membership is being used to advance those actions. For example if they quote their membership numbers to the media when promoting a specific issue.
JustinJ
Member
"Harry Reid will be proud of you."
Who and why? If you are reffering to me, my comments are obviously neutral about the NRA. I'm pointing out that there is a cost to being a member, if not a monetary one, so joining a group one disagrees with to get a few perks is hypocritical. Or maybe you are saying that Harry Reid has integrity and would never do such thing? Ahhh, now i get it.
Ad hominem attacks imply a weak position or the inability to defend it.
Who and why? If you are reffering to me, my comments are obviously neutral about the NRA. I'm pointing out that there is a cost to being a member, if not a monetary one, so joining a group one disagrees with to get a few perks is hypocritical. Or maybe you are saying that Harry Reid has integrity and would never do such thing? Ahhh, now i get it.
Ad hominem attacks imply a weak position or the inability to defend it.
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