NAA Mini Revolver?

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The black widow has novak sights and a 2" barrel and is quite accurate even at 25 yards. Until they come out with a black widow version of the top break, I'd go with the black widow. I can't see that reloading speed is an issue, personally, and if you want the top break for reload speed, you can buy the BW and a second NAA mini for what the top break costs and have a new york reload like I carry. :D I carry that little .22 even when armed with a bigger caliber gun. It's good insurance, rides in the weak side pocket. I stoke it with Federal Lightening as they're as accurate as anything in this gun, more accurate than most, and shoot to point of aim. I don't think there IS a .22LR round that out performs any other .22LR round out of a mini revolver, so I go with what's accurate and goes bang every time.
 
The black widow has novak sights and a 2" barrel and is quite accurate even at 25 yards. Until they come out with a black widow version of the top break, I'd go with the black widow. I can't see that reloading speed is an issue, personally, and if you want the top break for reload speed, you can buy the BW and a second NAA mini for what the top break costs and have a new york reload like I carry. I carry that little .22 even when armed with a bigger caliber gun. It's good insurance, rides in the weak side pocket. I stoke it with Federal Lightening as they're as accurate as anything in this gun, more accurate than most, and shoot to point of aim. I don't think there IS a .22LR round that out performs any other .22LR round out of a mini revolver, so I go with what's accurate and goes bang every time.
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Hey, MCgunner -- that's kind of how I was thinking, and EXACTLY the sort of input I was looking for.

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MCgunner -- if you're still around this thread -- do you have the fixed or adjustable sights on that Black Widow with which you do such incredible 25-yard shooting?

Actually, just to open this up to any and all BW owners -- did y'all go fixed or adjustable, and why?

Thanx.

J

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They are cool looking little guns and I've been tempted. But I just can't justify buying a gun that, loaded with any reasonably effective defensive round, is no fun to shoot.

To me it is a face gun and would be fairly difficult to manipulate under extreme duress (meaning your adversary is close enough for you to stick that little gun in his face).

The mini revolver may be the answer to everyone elses needs, just not mine. Still, if you wanted to get me one for my birthday ...
 
My Black Widow has the fixed sights, which are better for pocket carry. I don't really use them when shooting short distances (5-7 yards). Longest distance I've shot with the mini was 15 yards. I did okay, 3/5 on head shots using slow aimed fire.

There's a YouTube of a guy nailing balloons at 100 feet with a Black Widow.
 
My Black Widow has the fixed sights, which are better for pocket carry. I don't really use them when shooting short distances (5-7 yards). Longest distance I've shot with the mini was 15 yards. I did okay, 3/5 on head shots using slow aimed fire.

There's a YouTube of a guy nailing balloons at 100 feet with a Black Widow.
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Hoppes -- thanks much for the input.

I'm leaning toward the fixed sights, but I just want to do my "due diligence" of research before I -- pardon the phrase -- pull the trigger on a buy.

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I'd go with fixed sights if you intend to pocket carry. One other interesting option is the $99 Laserlite (a tiny laser designed for the NAA minis):

http://randywakeman.com/NAALaserBlackWidow.htm
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Thanks again, Hoppes.

The BW would be for pocket carry, so the fixed sight definitely seems like the better option.

That mini-laser is oddly cool... :cool: Kind'a defeats the purpose of a pared-down revolver -- but I might have to get one, for s's and g's. :D


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the guy in the video is a complete tool. i laughed so hard when i first saw the video. notice that after he finally hits it, he keeps dry clicking it like he thinks he has more bullets.
 
My .22 mag is a daily front pocket carry. Why? Because I live 9 miles from the sun, here in AZ. Sometimes it's not the only gun I carry, but it's ALWAYS carried.
 
I had been thinking of one day getting an NAA Mini Revolver as a backup CCW gun, but Randy C raised a good point. If it came to a time when I was in such a bad situation that I didn't have time to reload the primary or was dry and had to keep shooting, I don't know if I'd be able to manipulate the tiny gun and tiny hammer in order to actually be any more effective with it than a knife. That's a shame, because they're really neat. Might have to go with an LCP in stead.
 
If the tool doesn't fit your hand, it won't do you much good. The mini LR frame is too small for me to hold properly. The Mag frame is better and with the larger rubber grips of the Black Widow, it locks into my hand like a vise.

So, if the frame and grips fit your hand, then the manual of arms should not be a problem. Working the hammer is just part of shooting the gun, like working the lever on a rifle. It soon becomes second nature.

Sure, we've all seen guys who can shoot a SA revolver or lever-action rifle blindingly fast, but generally they are slower than semi-autos. There's more of a human element and less required of the machine and the ammo. You're essentially saying that you can cycle the action yourself in exchange for some greater level of concealability, reliability, accuracy, ammo flexibility, or some other tangible or intangible thing." You may simply feel more attuned to the weapon, like some drivers who prefer a stick shift to an automatic. Bottom line: yes, it's an extra thing you have to do. It shouldn't be an issue for most people, but it's something to consider.
 
Skipbo. That video doesnt do the mini justice. people are praising cci maxi-mags which are a light high velocity bullet. I found them wildly inaccurate and had misfires. This is ammo related. I now carry and have teste 45 grain winchester dynapointes. No misfires, They are accurate and I have done makeshift penetration test and am happy with their performance.
 
I shot my .22 mag with a 1-1/8" barrel for the first time today. WOW was it loud!

I need to get better with the reloading process. I can't seem to align the pin with the cylinder and get the hammer into a safety slot smoothly. One if the guys I was shooting with had no problems, so it's clearly operator error.

I definitely like this little gun.
 
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I shot my .22 mag with a 1-1/8" barrel for the first time today. WOW was it loud!

I need to get better with the reloading process. I can't seem to align the pin with the cylinder and get the hammer into a safety slot smoothly. One if the guys I was shooting with had no problems, so it's clearly operator error.

I definitely like this little gun.
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MCgunner -- if you're still around this thread -- do you have the fixed or adjustable sights on that Black Widow with which you do such incredible 25-yard shooting?

Actually, just to open this up to any and all BW owners -- did y'all go fixed or adjustable, and why?

Thanx.

J

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My Black Widow has adjustable sights, which I had to noticably tap to the left about 25% of the way off center of the barrel. But doing that puts me in a palm at the 25 yards.
Friends have referred to it as a "Barker", meaning that it has quite a report.

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I had a NAA Pug-T .22 Magnum for a few years. One of the few guns I was willing to part with, just didn't suit any needs for me and wasn't worth the time it took to reload. Although looking back I probably could have thought of some paranoid spot in the house/truck to plant it :)
 
I would strongly suggest that if at all possible, try the pistol first before buying one. This is not meant to imply anything negative about it, but it doesn't fit everyones hand alike. My hands are big enough that in order to reliably fire mine, I need the holster grip. Otherwise, it tips up in the finger I can grip it with, and veg-a-matics my thumb. :D
 
All the guys on the NAA forum who got breaktops love 'em. It is a cool old technology that sometimes makes me wonder why the swing-out cylinder ever became dominant.

One thing early owners have been asking for is a .22 LR cylinder option. I agree. The best thing about the breaktop is it allows much faster reloads than the removable cylinder design of the other minis. This allows for more effective use of range time or plinking time, but if you are limited to .22 Mag those quick reloads are quickly gonna become expensive - and LOUD!
 
All the guys on the NAA forum who got breaktops love 'em. It is a cool old technology that sometimes makes me wonder why the swing-out cylinder ever became dominant.
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I believe with its solid one-piece frame, the swing-out cylinder was inherently more sturdy, structurally, than the break-top, and could handle cartridges of greater pressure and power.

With the state of current metallurgy and engineering, I'm guessing there's no reason why a revolver of comparable structural integrity couldn't be designed...

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