National Empty Holster Protest Updates

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Not when it would hurt your cause, and the fact that it is national, and with a VERY important agenda, it would not hlep to hurt the org. as a whole or make us look bad and hurt our chances of getting done what needs to be done.
 
We havn't needed approval at A&M. The only approval we've needed is for the Corps members to get authorized to carry holsters.
 
The unfortunate part about this peaceful protest is that NOBODY IS ASKING ME WHY I'M WEARING A HOLSTER! :)

Day three. No questions. I'm not sure if I can look any more approachable than I already do... I've been walking especially slow, and putting extra effort into looking at people and smiling and saying "Hi" if there's a moment. Trying to bring it up goes against the whole point of the protest, but I quite possibly might get through the week without a comment.

I even gave an oral presentation today, standing in front of my entire touchy-feely-liberal-arts-American-Ethnic-Literature class today wearing light khakis and a white button up shirt crammed on one side behind a big shiny black leather holster on my hip. No questions. I was totally planning on making my presentation an extra 5 minutes longer with a Q&A session at the end on Campus Carry.

***?! :D
 
Last night my lab partner asked me about my holster I was wearing and we got into a lengthy discussion about it. He wasn't against it to begin with, but was just curious about the whole idea of CC and how you go about getting one ;). I talked to him for a while explaining the process and giving him information about SCCC to which he seemed really interested. Seems like he was in agreement with me that I should be able to CC on campus and was interested in going shooting. I'll have to give him a call next time I head to the range.
 
DeViney,

Perhaps it's the holster's fault!

I've got a cheapo cloth holster that I picked up at a gun shop for 10 dollars. It's large and not meant for CCW, but it gets people's attention because some connect this cheap holster with a part time that some of them know about: Airsoft. That starts some conversations.

Or maybe it's just a big holster.
 
here's something (Prof tries to ban holster from class)

Gun rights protest puts heat on UNH prof

By CLYNTON NAMUO
New Hampshire Union Leader Correspondent
Wednesday, Apr. 23, 2008

DURHAM – A University of New Hampshire student who was told by a professor that he could not wear an empty gun holster in her class as part of a protest responded by posting the correspondence on the Internet, which earned the professor several angry e-mail from strangers.

Senior Matt Ham, 22, is taking part in a nationwide demonstration this week in which participants wear empty gun holsters as a way to push for college students with permits to carry a concealed weapon to be able to bring guns onto campus. Those in favor of the move say that just one armed student could have prevented the massacre at Virginia Tech last year.

The protest is being sponsored by the group Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.

Ham, an active National Guardsman who works at Pease Air National Guard Base, said he told each of his four professors about the demonstration beforehand and asked to speak briefly with fellow students to explain what he was doing. All but one granted his request, while a fourth, sociology teacher Priscilla Reinertsen, sent him an email that specifically forbade him from wearing a holster.

Ham posted her e-mail, along with her email address, on a Facebook group sponsored by Students for Concealed Carry that has more than 28,000 members and added the message: "please keep it respectful for the sake of my grade."

As a result of the post, Reinertsen received several angry messages from strangers across the country criticizing her for trying to block the protest.

Reinertsen said she passed the emails along to the administration and allowed Ham to wear the holster in class because it was his right, but she did not let him speak.

"Those e-mails were belligerent," she said. "They weren't threatening, but they were angry. They were unpleasant."

UNH Deputy Police Chief Paul Dean said nothing in the emails constituted a threat, so Ham broke no laws or rules in posting Reinertsen's address, but he described the move as being "in poor taste" and "counterproductive."

"It's someone's desperate attempt to get their message out there and not be silenced," Dean said.

This is not the first time a university employee who moved against Students for Concealed Carry found his information on the Facebook group, according to Franklin Pierce University student Adam Broussard who, like Ham, is participating in the holster protest this week.

Broussard, 20, who studies at Franklin Pierce's Keene campus, said he saw a similar posting from a fellow student who was running into trouble with the demonstration on his campus. That post included the administrator's e-mail address as well, he said.

"Everything's public information; it all just depends on whether anyone wants to do it or not," Broussard said.

Ham said he did not intend for any negative messages to be sent to Reinertsen and was simply asking for support from fellow protestors.

"There's no need for that," he said of negative messages. "There's enough good points on both sides of this debate not to have to slander people, whether you agree or disagree."

Despite the hubbub over the e-mails, Ham said he has received scant attention for his protest this week. He said that to his knowledge he is the only student at UNH participating in the protest and received a permit from UNH police to do so. Police said Ham was the only one who had signed up to carry the empty holster.

Deputy Chief Dean said that although students are allowed to wear empty holsters on campus as a means of expression, guns are expressly forbidden by university policy. Students can register guns with UNH police and store them at the department, but cannot keep them on campus or in dorms. He said he would recommend expulsion for any student caught with a gun on campus.

Dean, who described himself as a lifelong gun user and a member of the National Rifle Association, said students with guns could create confusion in a school shooting situation because officers are trained to quickly find and take down shooters.

"If I enter a classroom and there are two people with a gun, who do you think is going to die," he asked. "Both people."

UNH officials work to prevent violent incidents before they happen by picking up on signs forewarning trouble, Dean said. He said such preventive efforts are much more effective at stopping school shootings than arming students. Despite the work, he said, a foolproof plan to prevent such shootings remains elusive.

"I just know that more guns aren't the answer," Dean said.
 
Guys and gals,

Don't get discouraged if no one notices your holster. You are still part of a national phenomenon that is garnering worldwide media attention. Even if that attention is not focused on you personally, you are the reason we can say "3,400 students" and not "3,399 students".

Besides, when people don't notice my holster, I smile. That's because it affirms what we've been telling people for the last year: when a student says "guns on campus would terrify me," he/she is full of crap, because if no one notices an openly displayed holster, then certainly no one will have a problem with something hidden in my pants and under my shirt.

"If I enter a classroom and there are two people with a gun, who do you think is going to die," he asked. "Both people."
And then whom do you think will be sued for wrongful death, Mr. Dean? If a cop comes across two people with guns and automatically shoots both of them, he deserves every day of jail time he will get.
 
I'm going to make the online petition a seperate thread, we're looking at breaking 400 signatures, and tomorrow is the last day. I'd really like to hit the administration hard with a huge number of responses.
 
Protest and a Cheap Thrill

Well, it seems like I'm the only one participating here at UGA. Interestingly things have gone better than I thought it would. I was expecting people on campus to freak out or getting "pounced" by campus police. 11:00am Friday and none of that's happened. :)

In fact, I've only had one person comment on my Galco holster. She's a friend of mine in pharmacy school. Her father is in the Air Force, so she's quite familiar with firearms. Yesterday afternoon we were with a large group of people out in the lobby. She looked down and saw my holster. In a rapid movement she whipped to my right side and pressed her body against mine. :what: And yes, she's quite the looker (she's hot :evil: ). Needless to say, this married man got flustered - rapidly. The next thing I new she was whispering in my ear "What the h#$@ are you doing!?"

Well, that's what I was thinking. I asked her what she meant, and she wanted to know why I wanted to get expelled for having a gun on me. I explained to her about the SCCC protest going on throughout the nation. She then looked down and saw that the holster was empty. Even though I'm color blind, I could clearly see in her face how embarrassed she was.

So, I've done my part for SCCC and got a cheap thrill! :D
 
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The unfortunate part about this peaceful protest is that NOBODY IS ASKING ME WHY I'M WEARING A HOLSTER!

That's because the leadup to the "event" was not adequate. Campus papers may have had a few things to say, but overall, well, students don't read, except for grades and to see which band is at which pub and which pub has which beer specials...

YOU NEED TO GET SOME STUFF UP ON BULLETIN BOARDS, TAPED TO DOORS, ETC.

That is NOT optional. It also has to be "in your face" kind of stuff. The kind of stuff that gets people talking. Not polite little black letters and a plain white sheet of paper.

Someone said that it'd be wrong to post stuff without permission. Well, you're not gonna get permission. And stuff is going to get torn down. Accept that as a cost of doing this, and repost. And repost.

Campus suggestion: Get a stamp made up that says "Student Concealed Carry Dollar" and pay for EVERYTHING you can on campus with ones...
 
Hmm interesting. I talked with my ex yesterday, she is one of hte hall director's on campus.

Apprantly in their weekly meeting, the housing director instructed the RA's to call the cops if ever they see a student wearinga holster this week.

I think I am going to make an appearance in the housing office this afternoon in person with my holster to let them know that after 4 years, I am tired of their **** and moving off campus.
 
The empty holster protest was mentioned on my small-town radio station news yesterday or the day before. The publicity must be pretty extensive if it's filtering down this far. Good work, folks!
 
You guys that are saying "Where's the publicity?" must not be looking very hard. The national media team alone has fielded over a hundred interview requests this week. Combine that with countless of local- and student-paper articles and this event has been pretty darn well-covered.
 
Bravo on the efforts of the protest. This event will show people on campus that our CCW students are sane, responsible folks . . . people who also happen to own firearms and could come to the aid of other students.

Hopefully everyone learned how to improve the publicity next time, and how to better pull off important events such as this.

ONE SUGGESTION . . .

Get some nice T-shirts imprinted with the organization's name on it, and with the following statement on the front and back:

"When Seconds Count, The Police Are Only Minutes Away!

SCCC



Tom
 
We have some good news on the Kansas front. The KU campus leader met with one of the house representatives earlier in the week and she suggested getting all of us campus leaders in the state of Kansas together and have a meeting with the Majority and Minority leaders, along with several other House members. Right now it seems to be scheduled for Wednesday.

The empty holster protest and media attention we got in Kansas was outstanding and simply amazing. We expected to get peoples attention but having meetings scheduled with members of the legislature this early completely out did what we were expecting to achieve.
 
yeah, dumbass couldnt shoot a gun. missed both shots, seems it was possibly from an off campus fight that was brought on campus, happened at grambling state. I believe it happened in the school cafeteria.
 
I carried an empty holster all week and no one said a thing. I also open carry most of the time when off campus, and no one says anything, so I can't see where a little black holster w/out the stainless gun in it is going to get folks talking.

For me it affirms that 95% of folks (at least in this town) are walking around with blinders on, just going from point A to point B with only the occasional glance at a member of the opposite sex, and then only AFTER they've passed you.

In a tangentially related topic: I was open carrying with my girlfriend yesterday when she decides she just HAS to stop in this store downtown which I call the hippie store. I don't have a problem with the place, but with "make love not war" bumper stickers and tee-shirts that have pictures of guns with daisies coming out of the barrel, I figured if the store wasn't posted the owner would probably say something.

I was wrong. She was not only friendly, but I caught her glancing at it and she never changed her demeanor. She even made some disparaging comment about Bush and then turned to me and apologized as if me carrying a gun equated to me liking Bush...but it wasn't a smart ass apology, it was "well, I shouldn't say that, I don't know everyone's views on him, but I sure don't like him" or something to that effect...

Made me smile.
 
Hating the Bush is the new way of showing that you're with the "in" crowd...

Fun part is to ask people why. Then they spew something at you. Then ask them to show some evidence, citations... Then they get irritable...

If nobody notices, nothing happened. Next time this is done (and there's nothing saying that individual schools can't do an "Empty Holster Monday" just for grins), make sure the word is out... Heck, tape stuff above urinals if you have to...

Idea: Write the "warning" like it is coming from an anti: "These empty holsters cannot harm you, because our campus security can be on location within five minutes to control the situation."

Heh... They may stay up longer that way too...
 
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