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Why are the protesters intending on displaying empty holsters? The issue is about the right to carry concealed not open. T-shirts, signs and posters and verbal communication in a rational way about the issue at hand. Exposing your weapon (in this case a holster) will only hurt the publics view of this protest IMO. We are trying to change public policy in a public way. Let's go about it in a civil manner w/o the outward display of power (firearms/holsters). After all if we get the policy changed we will not be carrying open anyhow.. Right?

As for the deadly weopon free zone. Ignorance at it's best.
 
Hey CWMCGU, looks like we got the same email. So did you protest? I was considering it but haven't made up my mind. Good to see someone local on the board.
 
I want to participate in the protest but there is a problem... I don't have a holster. I'm a rifleman at heart so I havn't delved into the handgun realm, especially since CCW is unlawful on campus where I spend 90% of my time. I'd go buy a cheap one just for the protest but I blew all my expendable money on .223 for a long day at the range this weekend.
 
I don't know if there will be any wearing of holsters on campus where I go to college here in Oregon.
I would wonder if wearing a holster in plain view would bring undue attention to myself in the form of being on a list of people who would potentially be concealing at the college.
I say this because i have been CCW-ing at college for the past 8 years allready. I do not want the scrutiny of my professors, or that of the administration, because I am finally just 24 credits from my degree.
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Even when campus is considered a public place and I can conceal carry in any public place without going to jail.
They could still kick me out, or make up some other reason for kicking me out, and use that for my expulsion.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
 
Followup: Here is the piece the school newspaper did on the topic. They failed to mention Virginia Tech at all. Poor journalism. This is one of the reasons I refuse to write for this paper anymore. Even if you write a good unbiased piece the editors will chop it up untill it says what they want it to say.

Students don hosters to protest weapons policy.

UK students are donning T-shirts and empty holsters throughout this week to peacefully protest state and university policies that prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms on campus.

More than 110 other university campuses around the U.S. are participating in the protest, which is organized by Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.

"Basically we're just trying to raise awareness by carrying the holsters and making sure they're empty," said business management junior Dave Burnett, a member of SCCC at UK. "We're not for civil disobedience; we're just trying to raise awareness."

UK's concealed weapons policy states that no person except a police officer can carry a firearm or any other weapon on campus property.

"It's been that way forever, and we're not the only ones. It's a state law," said Capt. Kevin Franklin of UK police. "It's for safety purposes. I just don't think it would be a good learning environment if we had everyone running around with guns on campus."

"But we do respect their right to protest," Franklin said.

The protest started with e-mails informing members of the UK community of the protest and the meaning behind the empty holsters.

The empty holsters are a symbolic representation that students and faculty on college campuses are made defenseless by state laws and school policies that refuse to allow concealed handgun license holders the same rights that they are allowed everywhere else, according to the SCCC Web site. The holsters also serve a practical point by encouraging conversation between protesters and individuals who might not know the facts.

UK President Lee Todd also sent out an e-mail Sunday afternoon notifying campus members of the event and endorsing the protestors' right to freedom of speech while still affirming that UK is a deadly-weapons-free campus.

Other state universities, such as Western Kentucky University, Eastern Kentucky University and Northern Kentucky University, are participating in the event, Burnett said, and the protest has gained national attention.

Local gun shops are also getting involved by donating or discounting holsters for students taking part in the protest, Burnett said.

"It's become bigger than I could imagine," he said. "The awareness is snowballing around the nation."

For more information and a list of the protest guidelines, visit the national SCCC Web site (www.concealedcampus.com) or e-mail

[email protected].

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Well I applaud the effort. The tactic seems good as well, peaceable, sensible, and received some decent exposure. However, part of me would like to see the point driven home by having another person approach the demonstrators and plaster 10,20, or 30 of them with red paint balls while they wander in circles shouting baaaaa,baaaaa,baaaaa.:D
 
Harvster says ...

However, part of me would like to see the point driven home by having another person approach the demonstrators and plaster 10,20, or 30 of them with red paint balls while they wander in circles shouting baaaaa,baaaaa,baaaaa.

Hey, give it a shot! Then you might find out that one or more of the sheep have two holsters: one exposed and empty, and the other . . . .

Naaah, that would never happen.
 
What pisses me off is most of these emails going out about the protest make it sound like every single student wants to carry a gun with out having a CHL. What they fail to point out is people with a CHL are the ones who want to be able to carry at school just as they do 1000's of other places perfectly legal:banghead:
 
I don't think it's the university president's role to outline the issue or present it. That's what the participants should be doing.

Since you raise the point, though, it's not clear to me that only students with a permit will be allowed to participate in this event. My guess is that its point might be diffused if participants include non students, those without permits, and those too young to have a permit, but I could be wrong.
 
"I just don't think it would be a good learning environment if we had everyone running around with guns on campus. But we do respect their right to protest,' Franklin said.

Translation: "As long as it's up to me, there is no way in Hell you morons are going to be allowed to go around armed, but if it makes you feel better to galavant around in self-gratifying protest, we will allow it." Or as Marie Antoinette said, "Let them eat cake!"
 
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