Mr_Flintstone
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I can’t find H4895 anywhere, and Trail Boss, Unique, and 2400 have been unavailable for a while. What else can I use for reduced loads? I’m loading for 30-30, 8x57, and 6.5x52.
Bullets? Lead plain base, lead with gas check, Lead coated, or jacketed?
Velocity range wanted?
More info needed on your projectiles of choice; at least if they are lead or jacketed or plated.
However, almost any single-base extruded powder can be safely downloaded a great deal. Your cartridge choices would lead me to try 3031, or something in that burn range.
30-30 and 308 is good for 4227. 4198 is great for 30-30. If you just want plinking rounds Google the load, and there is a paper for milsurps running on red dot. I think i have it if it seems a direction you want to go.I use polycoated cast and light-medium jacketed. H4895 has been my go-to powder for this, but I’m nearly out. I’m considering IMR 4227 as an alternative to 2400 as I have lots of it. I’m up for trying others as well.
Ed Harris' article for loading cast bullets in military service rifles.I can’t find H4895 anywhere, and Trail Boss, Unique, and 2400 have been unavailable for a while. What else can I use for reduced loads? I’m loading for 30-30, 8x57, and 6.5x52.
Yup. Just how “reduced” are you looking for? Ed Harris’ magic Red Dot The Load reduced or still a 100yd deer-getter but with less ouch than a standard infantry load when it goes bang reduced?Bullets? Lead plain base, lead with gas check, Lead coated, or jacketed?
Velocity range wanted?
You are aware of Promo powder? Ballistically the same as Red Dot, available only in 8 lb jugs. Use Red Dot data by weight.I’ve been considering Red Dot for a while. Unfortunately, looking at the reliable online vendors, RedDot is just as unobtainable as most other Alliant powders.
Accurate 5744 might be the ticket. There’s published reduced rifle data I’ve used for .30-06 with good results; and, it’s available at Powder Valley.I’ve been considering Red Dot for a while. Unfortunately, looking at the reliable online vendors, RedDot is just as unobtainable as most other Alliant powders.
Use IMR 4895 for reduced. I have with lead GC & lite jacketed. The Hodgdon youth load info works with IMR 4895 for me.H4895 has been my go-to powder
Which manual are the last two from???FYI Hodgdon BL-C(2) rifle powder is a spherical powder. (BALL, double based, containing Nitroglycerin. )
Maximum loads shown. IMR 4227 .View attachment 1123919 View attachment 1123920 View attachment 1123921
Cool old manual. Thanks. Does it have 7.7 jap in thereJust because its listed, doesnt mean it's a good choice. Like IMR 4350 IN 30-30. I seen a guy shooting the combination. Made strange sound on firing. Had to ask him what load was. View attachment 1123932
Not in IMR 1999. It's in Speer #8. Sent you PM.Does it have 7.7 jap in there
Just because its listed, doesnt mean it's a good choice. Like IMR 4350 IN 30-30.