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Need a spring for Italian .36 cal revolver.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by BADUNAME30, Jun 20, 2012.

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  1. BADUNAME30

    BADUNAME30 Member

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    I found the spring i need at Numeric.
    Looks like the "Trigger and Bolt" spring for a Pietta 1851 Navy will fit my needs.It's a dual two legged spring that works both the trigger and the pawl.
    Numeric has 'em for $11 but DANG, they want over $6 shipping !!!:banghead:
    I'm reachin for the off chance that someone may have one or know of a better source for one ?

    Here's what it looks like.
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  2. Hammerdown77

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    Hate to tell ya, but that's not as bad as other places wanting $11 to ship a small part like that.

    Might check Brownells, they have special "lightweight" shipping fees, but I think it's still $5 or so.

    Or just order several of them at once, along with some other stuff, since you may need more for other guns, or this one when it weakens or breaks.
     
  3. BADUNAME30

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    Sound advice Hammerdown.Havin a few on hand would indeed be a good idea.
    Allthough, i don't know for sure if it will even fit. And from past experience, Numeric can be knucklheads to deal with sometimes.
    Hadn't thot o' Brownell's havin one.I'll give 'em a call.............Nope, they don't have 'em.
    Thanx
     
  4. Hammerdown77

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    Try Dixie Gunworks. You can throw some other stuff in with your order to make it worth the shipping (like lead balls, lubed wads, mutton tallow, etc.)
     
  5. Jaymo

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    VTI Gunparts has them for $6.50 each.
     
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    Thanx HD, i did find 'em there fer $3.50.
    I ordered 2 and later last night got an e-mail sayin order canceled.
    I spose Dixie don't do back orders.
    Thanx for the heads up also.
    I'll keep watchin..in fact..i'll go make a wish list o' other .36 things and when the springs are in i'll make the order.
     
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    Thanx Jaymo,i'll go there if Dixie don't get 'em in in due time.
    Heck, i'm gonna go there now anyhow and see what else they have that i 'need' :D
     
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    Thanx Steve. I know i have some spring steel flat stock 'round here somewheres but i jist gotta find it.Tho, that involes more than just shapin it and insertin' it.
    'preciate the vid.That is a clever idea usin a safety pin like that. My first initial idea was to use a mousetrap spring.
    I spose they may be far too thick tho.
     
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  10. Shultzhaus

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    Both VTI and Dixie have full sets of springs. I couldn't get the spring I needed individually so I ordered the set, and got the one I needed plus all the others in that revolver. May pay to have all of them on hand. I ended up getting one set for Colts and one for Rems. Cabela's did have full sets of internal parts, like hammers, triggers, Etc. Good to have also.
     
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    Thank you Shultzhaus,
    The problem i have tho is that i/we have no clue who makes the gun i have. I would love to order extra parts to have on hand but i jist don't know which ones to buy.
    Once i positively id this pistola i will certainly get extra parts for 'er.
     
  12. 1911Tuner

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    Uh, no. It operates the trigger and stop bolt. The pawl...or "hand" as it's more commonly known...needs a different spring. In the originals, it was a tiny, flat, fragile affair that broke a lot.
     
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    Use (bend appropriately), use guitar wire.
     
  15. kBob

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    Jim,

    If it is the hand spring ( the hand is the part conected to the hammer that moves the cylinder) and not the trigger and bot spring ( both the trigger and bolt ride on seperate screws in the colt frame) you might look around for a THR thread on replacing the hand spring. I seem to recall some one cut a common bobbie pin to fit and it worked and there is also the techneque of doing away with it entirely by driling and tapping a hole so as to place a spiral spring against it.

    Would not be at all surprised if one could even drill a small hole in the hand through the spring slt and fit a section of safety pin in.

    Un known eye-talian revolvers can be fun. WHen I first got Das Klunker ( a brass frame .44 with octagonal barrel) I was happy as I immediately figured out what parts needed replacing......unfortunately nothing fit right and it took me a while to get it going again. Dispite being ugly and different it is now my favorite BP revolver and likely to be so for a bit as it has the most of my blood, sweat, tears and curse words in it.

    I plan to ask the folks that I meantioned held the gun I turned down monday to call the owner (it is a consignment piece) and ask if he will back down the price about $30 in which case I may well soon be back in the same boat as soon as something breaks.

    -kBob
     
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    According to this picture, it's NOT a hand spring....
     
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    Now there's an idea sltm1
    I got plenty old guitar strings :D
     
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    Tuner is correct kBob, i miss represented it.It indeed is the spring that works with the trigger and cylinder stop.
    The pawl or hand operates the turning of the cylinder.
    "Das Klunker" ..i like that :D
    I went into this one knowin it would become a pet project and also an education for me.It will indeed take some time, sweat and 'lessons', but i'm confident that i can make 'er a smooth shooter that Janet,( my wife), will enjoy.
    ( 1st thing i need to do is ship all my broken Brownell's screw driver bits off for replacement)
    For $100 OTD i couldn't pass 'er up.
    Other than the broke trigger/stop spring and HORRENDOUS trigger she's actualy in very good shape.
    I plant to eventualy give 'er a beautiful old worn look brownin' to go along with that brass and case hardenin'.
    I know that if/when i encounter another old no name "eye-talian" at the right price i will indeed jump on it jist to 'play' with.

    What is the pistola that you got yer eye on now ?
    If it's another no name i'm sure you can find something wrong with it to haggle the price over lol.
     
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    Correct Hd, it's the trigger/stop spring.
    Mmm.. i best git to learnin my terminology so's not to create any more confusion in the future.
    Sorry fells.
     
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    Jim,

    I am looking at a no name Italian (regular and BP/PN proofs) with a roman numeral date that has No othe markings than "Italy FIE" on it in .36. The caliber is not marked on it and it was marked as a .32. When I turned it down I had just rolled a .323 ball down the barrel with plenty of windage. They then changed the tag to .36 caliber. The main problem was that out the door was $159 which is too close to the $184 for a new .44 of some flavor or another at .

    I will know shortly if I will have play money to spend on it next week as I have a bid out on something else at the moment. Still I can not see more than $125 out the door on the .36. It seems tight and functional at the moment but that can quickly change. My first BP revolver a new .44 Brasser 1851ish broke the trigger/bolt stop spring on the third cylinder full and was thus down for a bit. I now have a spare somewhere about....I think....maybe

    -kBob
     
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    Sounds jist like the one we jist bot Bob.
    I think i'd start the hagglin with a fresh crisp Benjamin in my hand and settle on $125 OTD.
    Use the " you and i both know that the trigger/stop spring on this thing is gonna break as soon as i start shootin it " line.
    I've learned the past two days that that seems to be the norm with these no name Italians.

    I'm also beginin to realize the truth behind the "but that can quickly change "
    scenario too.
    I'm startin to think that when i git our no name squared away i'm gonna chock it up as a learnin' and put it on our table at the next gun show and use that money on somethin' reliable like a Pietta.
     
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    WOW, thanx J-Bar.
    That wire one looks like a winner to me.
    I'm not sure which to go with tho for this no name Itaila.
    Any suggestion ?
     
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    I think 32294 is your best bet.

    Better yet, call them and get their opinion. Nice folks.

    You may have to do some filing and bending, but I really think Wolff Springs are terrific.

    With an old gun like yours the wire spring is going to be more adaptable than a flat spring.
     
  25. kBob

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    Well I need not worry over the no name .36 locally for I won the auction for a no name .31 on GB yesterday and so have no more play money this month. Spouse took it well and notes that I enjoy tinkering and shooting and even cleaning as much as she loves her sport.

    Once I get the gun I will this time try to take some before and after pictures and actually post them.

    -kBob
     
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