Need advice quick, Sp101 - G-19

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I have a chance to sell my Glock 19 and buy a NIB Ruger SP101. I really like revolvers, and shoot them better, but something keeps nagging me about capacity.

Is the SP101 easier to conceal than the G-19? Should I let capacity bother me?

I need advice quick, supposed to sell Glock in the am.
 
Keep the Glock 19. Capacity is important, especially in today's age of multiple assailants, home invasions, and rude drivers.

I have both guns. I use the G19 frequently and the SP101...to construct holsters.

The SP101 is almost exactly the same size as the G19. I find it a bit more difficult to conceal due to the rubber grips grabbing my shirt. Other than that, it's not really getting you much of anything and the trigger requires work. The 357 Magnum cartridge is good, but with quality ammunition, the terminal ballistics aren't that much different. You're actually sacrificing controllability by going to the 357 Magnum since there is increased recoil, sound, and flash.

Now, saving up $25 a month for an SP101 is a different story.
 
I carry a SP-101, and if I can't defend myself with 5 rounds i'm probably dead anyway. To each his own.
 
Owning both, the SP 101 and a Glock 19, I find the Glock 19 to be better suited for carry due to weight distribution and shape. The 15, or 15+2 rounds that the Glock has to offer is an added benefit.

The SP101 is a very nice gun and shoots very well but it is rather heavy for its size.
 
Well, I'll give my opinion, which resembles a fact about as well as Rosie O'Donnell resembles Jenna Jameson.

I tend to prefer revolvers, so I'd practice with it more. I'd rather have 3x the practice and 1/3 the capacity than the other way around. Ain't nothing worse than depending on your ability to use a gun at the worst of times that you don't even enjoy shooting at the best of times.

If you shoot the Glock well and taking it to the range is both business and pleasure, then I'd likely hang on to it.
 
I have never regretted selling a gun more than I've regretted selling my G19. It is the most firepower you can get for its size. Carries easier than the sp101, has over triple the capacity. Accurate. Great carry loads available. Wish I had mine back right now.
 
Keep the Glock

I concur with Crebralfix's advice. I carry the G-19 off duty, and really like it;
I have complete confidence in the Gold Dot 124 grain +P loads in the gun. I see no advantage (and, in fact, several disadvantages) in a short-barrelled
.357. Not that I am down on the .357 in general - for my first several years as a LEO, I carried a 6" S&W Model 28, by choice - but that was way back then, and there are many good, proven 9mm +P and +P+ loads now.
 
Owning both, the SP 101 and a Glock 19, I find the Glock 19 to be better suited for carry due to weight distribution and shape.

I agree with this. The SP 101 is one of my favorite revolvers, but for concealed carry I'd go with the Glock.

Here's the good news: you win either way you go!

Have fun and enjoy what you decide on.

Take care,
DFW1911
 
LOL...love 'em or hate 'em...Glocks are like that.

Just one more point to consider: is this a "fun" gun or is it a "work" gun?

I shoot revolvers for fun, but only experiment with carrying them. It just comes down to the fact that CCW is serious business and the nature of encounters we expect. (Note the "expect" part). If you think five shots will do it, then go for it. It may be all you need. But, what is the typical nature of "criminal" fights? I have seen data from various sources that "average" means 10 feet or less with two or more attackers (I am not certain how accurate this is; so research it yourself to come to your own conclusion). They are also explosively fast--as in just a few seconds long with lots of running around. Therefore, in my mind:

1) Have a gun
2) Have spare ammo and a way to reload quickly while moving
3) Prepare yourself for the encounter: close, fists flying, knives cutting, guns shooting and moving to avoid all that.
4) Understand that target shooting is NOT tactics. Accuracy is great, but breaks down under pressure. Jim Cirillo made this very, very clear in his DVDs (he was in MANY gunfights as a cop in NYC). Think about it beforehand and have several plans.
5) Learn to be aware. I taught myself to do a 20 second check. It's like a little alarm that goes off two or three times a minute. When it goes off, check 360 for hands, faces, and intent.
6) Carry spare weapons: a folding knife and possibly a backup gun
7) Learn the mentality of the people you think you will be facing. They are "alien" to us. If I think "I need more money", then my natural conclusion is "Work a bit more on the side". The criminal mindset says "Go harvest someone." (See Safe in the City from Paladin Press.)

Finally, just so you know, Glocks do NOT work well for me as plinkers/target guns. They point high. The G17 sized guns don't fit my hand at all (which is why I use the 19 and 26). Don't even hand me a Glock 21 or Glock 30 because I can barely reach the trigger. The sights are bad out of the box for everything EXCEPT combat (plastic and too wide for target shooting).

Yet, given these problems, why do I continue to use them? The gun is reliable, the magazines are (well, were) reasonably priced, parts are very easy to find, internal maintenance doesn't require a gunsmith (the true genius of the design), the finish is tough, and they shoot well for a service gun. Capacity is maximum for size. Concealability was my number one criteria when I made my second gun decision years ago (OK, it was like my 10th, but who's counting?)

You can get over how the gun points and feels...it's just a matter of training in a serious way. Setting training goals BEFORE going to the range is the key in doing this. If you plan your serious range trips, you will make far more progress than if you just plink and shoot targets.

Just some things to think about. I know getting a new gun is neat and all...but at some point, setting priorities is more important. I have fallen for marketing too. If you cannot afford too many guns, then I encourage you to spend the money on spare parts, Ptooma Productions' Glock manual, ammunition, and training. Go buy 2,000 rounds and work your way through them in a methodical, careful way. If you start speed shooting, it's because you're training that "one handed, weak side, shooting to 7 o'clock straight out from your shoulder" double tap. It's a much more likely shot than straight up, square, and unmoving.
 
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funny...i shot both of these guns just yesterday. i own the SP101. the G19 was a rental, and it was my first time shooting a glock. i didn't think i would like glocks, but i shot the 19 pretty well yesterday for a first time.

couple things i would say...
1. i would not agree that they are the same size. the SP is smaller, though it may be heavier and the shape may not conceal as well for you. still...it is smaller.
2. though i was satisfied with the glock overall, i was not pleased with the magazine. it was a 15-rounder, and i could not for the life of me cram in more than 11 rounds. anyone else have this problem? what's up with that? could've been a new mag, i suppose. but this was a rental gun that sees plenty of use.

though i like revolvers for carry, i was pleased with the G19 except for the mag. in fact, i shot it better than my SP101 yesterday. i think you should stick with it if it works for you, though i would not dissuade you from saving up for the ruger.
 
Own both, shoot both and both are great choices. Having said that, my personal choice for concealed carry is the Ruger SP-101. Carry it in a 2 O'Clock Carry by Comp-Tac (see pic) HOLSTERPIC2-1.gif
As the pic will show I have changed out the factory grips for Hogues which is, for me, a personal choice based on grip design and large hands.

Bottom line is that I vastly prefer the choice of ammunition afforded by the 38/357 as opposed to the 9 mm choices.

Both are good choices and this is just one man's opinion based on personal experience.:)
 
If you sold your Glock 19 you would have to get a new username.:neener:









At this point, it should all be said and done, may as well have some fun.
 
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I carry a SP-101, and if I can't defend myself with 5 rounds i'm probably dead anyway. To each his own.

I'm kind of this crowd. In all likelihood, you will probably never pull your gun, your even less likely to shoot, and you will most likely not need more than a shot or two. On the other hand, you might need a hi-cap auto. I would pick the gun you shoot best the fastest. Personal choice, but I like wheelguns....
HB
 
I have owned both. Sold both. BUT, I am looking for another sp 101. That one I regret selling. G19 is a decent gun and one of the better CCW. But I like steel and had more confidence when I carried the sp. Of course I daily CCW a 1911. Confidence in your handgun is everything!
 
I can only tell you the logic I used making your decision.

I had an SP101 in .38 Special. The caliber is marginally no more or less effective than 9mm with modern hollowpoints and loadings. If I had shot the Ruger more, maybe I would have been less inclined to let it go. Since I could afford to shoot the G19 more often, that's the one I improved with. There also didn't seem to be any reason to carry a five shot revolver that occupied practically the same amount of space as the fifteen shot semi-auto, but that's considering caliber. If you're talking .357 Magnum, I think it's a little different because of the wide range of ammunition afforded to you, from 110gr-180gr factory loadings, and lots of possibilities for reloading. But because I didn't shoot .357 Magnum out of a snub very well (nor could I afford to do it often) again the choice went to the G19.

Bottom line for me is practice, practice, practice. If I can't afford to practice with it, I won't shoot it. If I can't hit what I shoot at, it doesn't matter what gun I choose.

jm
 
"rude drivers"??????

Yeah, boy. Them glock boys are allowed to shoot at anything or anybody.

"But your Honor, he was being rude. He deserved to get shot."

Playing with you some, man. But another driver being rude is not justification to pull a weapon on them, if that is what you meant.
 
Thanks for all your advice,

I decided to let the Glock go, and I am picking up my new SP101 this friday.

I got the chance to go out with a friend and shoot his SP101 and did alot better with it than with the Glock. I did a whole lot better on drawing and firing drills with the Ruger. I never could get a real good grip on the Glock from the draw, but had no problems with the revolver. I was never that accurate doing speed drills with the G-19. However, the SP101 did great. I guess I am just a revolver guy.

I will still carry the LCP as a BUG or when I can't carry the SP101.

I just realized all my guns are now Rugers:

SP101 (soon)
LCP
Super Blackhawk
10/22



Thanks again for all the opinions.
 
Well, sounds like you made a good decision based upon your needs...

A Ruger is a quality revolver, now just don't make the mistake I did and sell the silly thing. Just buy more...
 
I won't, this is one gun that will be with me forever.




Matt - how is that
 
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Well, I picked up my SP101 today. I have not shot it yet, but I really like this gun. It conceals better than the G-19 in a new Don Hume 715. I think I made the right choice for me.
 
LOL Texshooter! You have to see some of these people here in the DC area! Well, Fenty does represent something.

Yes, I've actually covertly drawn a gun on a rude driver...because he was attempting to use his truck as a weapon. I kid you not...people think they can get away with anything around here, including using force (in the form of their vehicle) to do whatever they want regardless of the rules of the road. Fortunately, increasing my distance and, therefore options, was not difficult on that highway :)

So, it goes more like: "Your Honor, he forced his way into traffic such that I had to take evasive action to avoid a collision, even though he had a yield sign (heck, even stop sign or light). I ended up on the shoulder. In doing so, since it was an involuntary reaction, three other drivers also reacted, causing multiple accidents."

Fortunately, I chose a different route, but the above could have easily been the result of this guy's behavior. If it had been at 70-80 mph, I would be dead...fortunately, it was in light rush hour at only 35 mph.

And, yes, I have been run off the road before around here.

Then there was that fist fight that broke out on the highway between two guys (one cut off the other)...three feet over and someone would have been hit at 50 mph! One good punch and it would have been Toxic Avenger time! Splat! One guy slammed on the brakes and got rear ended because of that one. It could have easily been a pile-up, but others weren't tailgating AS badly.
 
Congrats on your SP101! It's a really fun gun!

Get some good 125 grain JHP 357 Magnum ammo and let 'er rip! You will be able to light a cigar on the fireball. :neener:

Maybe you can give us a range report with pictures soon.
 
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