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Azrocks the plunk test failure was happening before this over crimp. It was when I had a minor crimp on it about 1/8-1/4 turn extra from making contact with the case. Originally would the issue been too much flare on the case mouth or would it of been possibly not enough from the sizing die?

@Jericho97, Your measure of turns of crimp is meaningless. You need to use quality calipers or even a mic to measure the outer diameter of the case mouth of your finished rounds - right at the case mouth - and compare this to spec. As I touched on above, even if you used just enough crimp to remove whatever bell you put on the case, if the bullet was seated down so far that the bullet began to narrow at the point where it contacts the case mouth, that means the case mouth will be under spec, which will not headspace correctly. Not saying that's necessarily an issue here - though it could be - but it illustrates the necessity of actually knowing the dimensions of the case mouth.
 
Question then as the rounds are now what possibilities could happen if they were fired or say on another batch I dont realize I over crimp what could happen I've read its mainly inaccuracy which rn idc since this is all range ammo and practice trying to learn the craft
 
Edit: could one solutions be if i shorten the rounds to 1.13" OAL to fire them or is it better not to risk the extra pressure and stick to 1.14" or just toss them and cut my losses
Since they plunk at 1.14”, I wouldn’t shorten them, especially with the roll crimp you now have. They will most likely headspace on the extractor, not ideal, but it’ll work. You’re not near max with 5.02gr CFE, even if you meant 5.20gr. You said they feed fine, just make sure you have some neck tension and setback is minimal. Good luck!
 
Question then as the rounds are now what possibilities could happen if they were fired or say on another batch I dont realize I over crimp what could happen I've read its mainly inaccuracy which rn idc since this is all range ammo and practice trying to learn the craft

If the bullets were seated too deep to begin with, you could have a significant over-pressure event (boom!).
If the cartridge drives past the point where it's supposed to headspace, it could drive the bullet into the lands, causing a potential pressure spike (boom!).
On the less-tragic end, you could have misfires, stuck cases, or worn/damaged extractors.
No way I'd run them.
 
With only having about 5.02g of powder and the oal only being 1.14 could that cause a over pressure
And now I'm seeing 2 different sides some saying these rounds should be fine to run and others saying no they arent I haven't tested any of the rounds besides a feeding test and they passed. I just want to make sure if I can or cant run these since I do have a way to depose of these at work
 
Should I just take a couple of rounds and test first before going through the whole box?
 
OK how many do we have like this?
They are probably ok to shoot, but if you don't have a lot I would say to just pull the bullets and start over, of course the flip side is if there are not that many just shoot them.
You can decap live primers and reuse them if you are worried about saving the primers, just go slow, be gentle, and make sure you are wearing safety glasses.
If you do want to reuse the primers I would mark ammo loaded with them (sharpie mark on the case for example) just so you know which ones they are in case you have any issues with them you know it might be the those primers.

Hard to tell with your bullets but if 1.15 is a no go and 1.14 is fine if it was me I would go ahead and seat future rounds to 1.125/1.13 just for some wiggle room.
Hodgdon shows
115 GR. SPR GDHP Hodgdon CFE Pistol .355" 1.125" 5.3 1059 23,200 PSI 5.9 1185 31,800 PSI
with a 115 so if you are at 5.2gr of CFE-P .01 deeper shouldn't cause any pressure issues IMO.


Now if you were at 5.9gr it might or might not be a different story
(Note: it it not so much OAL as how much of the bullet is in the case, ie case volume. Same bullet deeper - less volume=higher pressure different bullets at the same OAL will result in different case volume do to different bullet shapes, pointy round nose vs Flat point, HP, different shape round nose etc)

Since yall are being extremely helpful on my lee resizing/depriming die the depriming screw up top will not move/is stuck where I couldnt loosen it or tighten it I've tried pliers and wrenches but nothing worked what would be a good solution to loosen it.
Two good wrenches the correct size and some muscle, if it still does not want to move maybe some liquid wrench/oil/WD40 etc and let it soak for a bit.
As I recall from the factory mine was pretty tight and I had to "lean" on it a bit. (didn't need to be that tight)

It needs to be tight but not to tight, you want the pin to side up if something is wrong and not bend, but not slide up during normal use.

Azrocks the plunk test failure was happening before this over crimp. It was when I had a minor crimp on it about 1/8-1/4 turn extra from making contact with the case. Originally would the issue been too much flare on the case mouth or would it of been possibly not enough from the sizing die?

You just want to remove the belling/flare you created earlier, how much turn varies.
You want it to look like the picture LiveLife posted.

Test a dummy,
resize the case, make sure it plunks, expand and seat a bullet, loosen up the die you are crimping with until you get none.
Add a little, plunk, no go, ok add a little more, if ok you are there.
More crimp will not help neck tension, and will most likely make it worse...

I case gauge all my match ammo to make sure, practice ammo I don't, but say out of 500 using range brass there will be a few that won't gauge, sometimes none, sometimes 10 or more, just depends on the brass.
 
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Quick update since I finally got on break at work I had my gunsmith who has been reloading for about 3 years check out the ammo as well and was with yall saying it would shoot but you did mess up on crimp and soms what on resizing. He offered to test out a couple of rounds since the worse that could happen was squib round. After shooting 5 rounds they worked fine for him and I was able to shoot the remaining 45 rounds with no problem. For my next batch I will definitely take everything from yall and make them better with out that much crimp again. I want to thank everyone who has given me good feed back and where to improve.
 
@Jericho97, Good deal. I know it’s difficult to interpret what several members say especially when it seems we’re at odds. No one can say with 100% certainty that the loads you made will be 100% ok to shoot. The only thing I tried to convey is if I had loaded what you did, and overcrimped them, given the load data you had, I would have tried them. And I’m somewhat conservative with the loads I shoot. At any rate glad to hear things went well, it’d be nice to see a post from you with the new and improved rounds. Good luck!
 
I had a SAMMI minimum chamber EMP for a while and it would jam up on any brass over .3915 near the base. So I bought a Wilson case gauge, and started scrapping all sized cases that would not enter it and fall out from its own weight (.391 or less near the base). I would lose 10/15% of range brass on a new batch. After that, if I did not load them too hot, they would continue to pass the gauge after sizing.The 9MM case is tapered, so it is important the sizer is all the way down when actually sizing a case, to take into account press flex.

My old one I gave my son.
Wilson 9MM Case Gauge Pic 1.JPG

The new one I bought.
Wilson 9MM Case Gauge - New One.jpg

No issues with loaded rounds passing the gauge using brass that passed prior to loading.
Wilson 9MM Case Gauge With Bullet.JPG

An FC case that failed the gauge after sizing. Some would fail worse than that,
but some would go all the way in, but need a gentle poke to get them out, which is a failure.
Wilson Guage with Failed 9MM FC case.JPG
 
one last thing I did just finish resizing all the brass and it does pass the plunk test in my barrel, now trying to make sure the flare is correct for the mouth to get ready to seat the bullet. Pictured below and how far the bullet seats after flaring the case is this too much is this too little is it just right? I have a bullet next to it trying my best to show exactly how much sits in the case before attempting to seat it
 

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That is more flare than you need for a jacketed bullet, but not too excessive. I would however back off of it a little.
 
That what I was thinking thankfully I only did the one last night I will adjust it down a tad and go from there
 
Looks like you are headed in the right direction.
A year from now you can think back and laugh about the issues you had with those first rounds.
:)
 
When I first started reloading semi-auto cartridges I only had a roll crimp die (can't remember why or what make dies). A roll crimp die can remove flare but it just needs to be adjusted to do so. A light touch and the flare is gone...
 
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