Need Help Starting a Milsurp Collection

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Oh boy, you're in for it ;). Very few of us have ever been successful at limiting the mil surp collections. The things breed like rabbits. You get a particular model, and you wind up wanting each variant, or ones with different aresenal marks, etc.

I would like a WWII Japanese rifle since my grandfather served in the pacific. I know nothing about Japanese rifles so any information there would be great.

Lot's to be said, but I'll condense it a bit. The 7.7mm type 99 is the most often encountered, usually with the 'mum (crysanthemum; emperors mark) defaced and the dust cover long since discarded. They're usually in the $200-$300 range in decent shape. Type 38 (6.5x50mm) is next for availability, and a little more likely to have an in-tact mum. Type 44's are less common and bring a bit of a premium. There are other variants as well, but these are the one's you're likely to actually find without searching very carefully.

For European rifles, definately WWII era is what I am looking for. Mausers are interesting to me so I am thinking about a k98 or others.

The British SMLE is probably the most fun to shoot out of the European armory, maybe save the (awesome) K-31. The No. 4 Mk III is most common.

The French MAS 36 is a cool rifle, with brutal recoil. But 7.5x54mm ammo is hard to find, best done as a reloading venture.

The Italian Carcanos are gonna be easy to acquire and generally very cheap, with the 6.5mm M91/38 short rifle being most common. The 7.35mm M38 commands a little more cash, and ammo is not widely available, mostly being 70+ year old surplus stuff. They also require en-bloc clips to function, FYI.

As Mausers go, the Swede's are certainly the nicest, IMO. I kinda prefer the M96 long rifle.


The best way to grow your collection without going bust is to know how to identify them, what the values are and to have enough disposable cash to pick them up quickly when the opportunity presents. I've scored alot of them at really amazing prices because the shop was too lazy to research it and I had the funds to jump on it. Think Original G-98 for $100, SVT-40 for $200, and so on.

Good luck and welcome to the addiction!
 
KDS - is there a particular era or country or historical theme/event that is of particular interest to you?

There are tons of great ideas here, but you might want to start by drilling into a specific area of interest. WW2 Eastern Front. Com-block cold war era. Etc...

Of course, I never followed my of advice. My milsurp collection covers way too many themes, but at least overlaps a little bit:

- US Army (1855-1960),
- WW2 Eastern Front,
- WW2 Western Front,
- Com block Cold War, and
- "Random stuff that doesn't fit a collection, but I thought was a good deal at the time"
 
If you want to shoot the most ammo for a given paycheck, a Mosin Nagant.

Otherwise, in addition to the LE #4, you might enjoy the #5 "Jungle Carbine" :) just as much, though built only at the end of the war.
If you don't mind some reloading (Prvi ammo is about .60/rd.), you have both power and handiness in the #5.
 
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