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I have not seen the movie.
Slings with shell holders are often found locally at box stores and Franchises such as Gander Mtn, Bass Pro, Academy Sports ... etc.
Usually near the waterfowl area, or now-a-days scattered in with the neat newfangled gear.
I have to be honest, most folks in the old days only used these slings to wade out to duck blinds and goose pits, then removed the slings.
Pendulum Effect.
On the gun, those shells with increased weight on the sling - "swing" and will mess one up on gun mount, swing, target acquisition, and follow through.
I only use a plain vanilla sling to get to and fro when hunting.
I rarely use one on a house gun.
In fact my current home gun, a Youth Single shot 20 ga, does not even have sling swivel studs.
Even a light web sling can cause Pendulum Effect.
I do not do fancy slings, single points or anything either, being a guy , I happen to like my gonads and really hate it when they get hit with a shotgun /rifle hitting them.
Many new sling designs will allow the long gun to hit one in the gonads.
Girls don't seem to like to hit between the legs either...
I rarely use a sling on a Serious Shotgun, it does depend, and if I do use one, it is the most simple config there is.
Pendulum Effect and Gonad Protection are two key ideas to keep in mind.
Again, I am not even using a shotgun with sling swivels installed.
But I do know how to sling this gun (any long gun) without sling swivels to tote if need be...
Slings with shell holders are often found locally at box stores and Franchises such as Gander Mtn, Bass Pro, Academy Sports ... etc.
Usually near the waterfowl area, or now-a-days scattered in with the neat newfangled gear.
I have to be honest, most folks in the old days only used these slings to wade out to duck blinds and goose pits, then removed the slings.
Pendulum Effect.
On the gun, those shells with increased weight on the sling - "swing" and will mess one up on gun mount, swing, target acquisition, and follow through.
I only use a plain vanilla sling to get to and fro when hunting.
I rarely use one on a house gun.
In fact my current home gun, a Youth Single shot 20 ga, does not even have sling swivel studs.
Even a light web sling can cause Pendulum Effect.
I do not do fancy slings, single points or anything either, being a guy , I happen to like my gonads and really hate it when they get hit with a shotgun /rifle hitting them.
Many new sling designs will allow the long gun to hit one in the gonads.
Girls don't seem to like to hit between the legs either...
I rarely use a sling on a Serious Shotgun, it does depend, and if I do use one, it is the most simple config there is.
Pendulum Effect and Gonad Protection are two key ideas to keep in mind.
Again, I am not even using a shotgun with sling swivels installed.
But I do know how to sling this gun (any long gun) without sling swivels to tote if need be...
Jorg Nysgerrig
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Now that sm has provided the disclaimer about using them, I think the one made by Blackhawk is probably close to what you are looking for. I personally don't like things swinging around and as sm said, it does mean a thing if you add weight to that sling. (My apologies to Duke Ellington.)
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Bandoleers actually have a place with shotguns.
Either one, or two criss-crossed across the chest.
Standing in flooding timber allows one to keep shells handy for waterfowl for instance, and "less likely" to get wet if shells are in shell pouch, or lower pocket of hunting coat.
Dove Hunting and again some like the weight of extra shells on shoulders and not on waist from a shell pouch.
Plus one can do their best Wild Bunch Pose and listen to Spaghetti Western Music...gotta have a cigar clenched in your teeth.
I do jacket pockets and shell pouches personally...
I often look like the last person that even knows what a shotgun is, much less how to shoot one.
I get a kick out of seeing how low tech I can be...
I look good with a single shot shotgun, two spare shells in my weak hand fingers , a few shells in my shirt pocket, and some in weak jeans pocket.
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True-
The Impromptu "lesson" was to "survive" ...an intruder is in the house and coming down the hall.
I was the only one that opened the "bedroom" window and evaded without firing a shot.
No body said I had to get into a gunfight , they just said "survive someone coming down the hall toward this bedroom you are in".
Helluva lot easier getting out a bedroom window with a Youth 20 ga single shot shotgun with no sling...
...than a "umpteen pound tactickle one I assure you".
Either one, or two criss-crossed across the chest.
Standing in flooding timber allows one to keep shells handy for waterfowl for instance, and "less likely" to get wet if shells are in shell pouch, or lower pocket of hunting coat.
Dove Hunting and again some like the weight of extra shells on shoulders and not on waist from a shell pouch.
Plus one can do their best Wild Bunch Pose and listen to Spaghetti Western Music...gotta have a cigar clenched in your teeth.
I do jacket pockets and shell pouches personally...
I often look like the last person that even knows what a shotgun is, much less how to shoot one.
I get a kick out of seeing how low tech I can be...
I look good with a single shot shotgun, two spare shells in my weak hand fingers , a few shells in my shirt pocket, and some in weak jeans pocket.
~~
True-
The Impromptu "lesson" was to "survive" ...an intruder is in the house and coming down the hall.
I was the only one that opened the "bedroom" window and evaded without firing a shot.
No body said I had to get into a gunfight , they just said "survive someone coming down the hall toward this bedroom you are in".
Helluva lot easier getting out a bedroom window with a Youth 20 ga single shot shotgun with no sling...
...than a "umpteen pound tactickle one I assure you".
DawgFvr
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You know, many people on here have told me not to use a sling on a shotty used for home defense for various reasons. Personally, I think it works just fine. I keep all my ammo in the sling instead of on the weapon and it travels quite well in my small home. I have not had any "swinging" problem and it has not snagged on anything while in deployment...and ya know, my arms are quite strong enough to hold this puppy in any scenario of deployment.
sm
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Great!
Glad you found what works for you, and have trained and continue to train with your tool for your task.
Glad you found what works for you, and have trained and continue to train with your tool for your task.
sm
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Everyone is different in physical size, abilities and everyone has their particular circumstances they must access and train for.
One suggested ideology, is the home gun(s) should be set up for the smaller of the physically sized of the household that may have to use them.
Which also includes any Physically limited persons, either temporary [injury, surgery and recovery, sickness] or permanent.
A bigger person can effectively handle a smaller gun. Which includes, but not limited to physical size [LOP, weight, etc] also payload [gauge , caliber, and types of these loads].
For instance a Serious Situation occurs at the home, and while one adult is attending another family member, either shot, hitting head and bleeding from hitting head on coffee table hitting the deck taking cover - whatever, the wife, teenage daughter, teenage son, - whomever... may have to
Hold the shotgun on a BG and dial the Phone for help.
Being kept on the phone for 30 seconds to 5 minutes, or longer, and having to control a shotgun, and keep on a BG, and then have to fire that shotgun one-handed to stop the threat the BG does...BGs thinking the person with one handed shotgun use is fatigued.
We and others practice standing there with a phone in hand, with a shotgun, and having to fire after so many seconds to however minutes.
We always ask the questions:
1. Can you use your gun one handed if shot, injured?
2. Could another member of the household?
3. Could a neighbor running over to assist you in a time of need?
One suggested ideology, is the home gun(s) should be set up for the smaller of the physically sized of the household that may have to use them.
Which also includes any Physically limited persons, either temporary [injury, surgery and recovery, sickness] or permanent.
A bigger person can effectively handle a smaller gun. Which includes, but not limited to physical size [LOP, weight, etc] also payload [gauge , caliber, and types of these loads].
For instance a Serious Situation occurs at the home, and while one adult is attending another family member, either shot, hitting head and bleeding from hitting head on coffee table hitting the deck taking cover - whatever, the wife, teenage daughter, teenage son, - whomever... may have to
Hold the shotgun on a BG and dial the Phone for help.
Being kept on the phone for 30 seconds to 5 minutes, or longer, and having to control a shotgun, and keep on a BG, and then have to fire that shotgun one-handed to stop the threat the BG does...BGs thinking the person with one handed shotgun use is fatigued.
We and others practice standing there with a phone in hand, with a shotgun, and having to fire after so many seconds to however minutes.
We always ask the questions:
1. Can you use your gun one handed if shot, injured?
2. Could another member of the household?
3. Could a neighbor running over to assist you in a time of need?
DawgFvr
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Very good point. If, for some reason, a BG is in my house and not bleeding out from various holes...I would have them move into a face down, hands behind head w/ankles crossed. I move behind the BG...place stock under my armpit and make the call. Sounds simple...right? It is. No need for somebody to hold any weapon at arms length while making a call. Also, my new cell phone can make calls through voice command.
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Armpit is correct.
Understand I often post replies to a "lower level" of reader of postings.
Not everyone is a member of THR that reads these posts.
Not everyone is in the United States, and therefore many, and often many do have different Firearm Laws, Restrictions, Political Flavors, Interpretations of Firearm Laws, Opportunities to get any Firearm Lessons and Training.
For Example, one member shared that in Ireland I believe it was , the shortest barrel length he is allowed to have is 24".
New Zealand requires extensive background check to have long guns, and these must be locked at all times, NOT loaded, NOT readily accessible, and Ammunition NOT locked up with the gun.
Spinner can correct me on NZ Laws.
Re: Slings.
My take is to break this matter down to the lowest level, and reinforce gun fit, learning the gun bone stock, get lessons/training and then IF an instructor, trainer says for that student to get a sling ( or any other accessories) then do so.
Learn gun fit, correct basic fundamentals first, then advance.
For some...it is NOT legal to have ammunition already on the gun, be it sling, side saddle, or butt cuff.
For some, legalese *might* Interpret a sling on the gun while stored means "ready access" which *might* be interpreted as meaning one *might* be "thinking" self defense [NOT LEGAL].
Hunting? Fine get the gun, add the sling, then go to other locked cabinet and get the shotgun shells.
I never know if someone from another country , heck some jurisdictions here in the US, with restrictions is reading THR.
It might be FOR THEM and THEIR household, the best kept secret an 1100 in 20 ga, is best
Similar guns such as Beretta 303, 390, 391.
Winchester 1400 is the softest shooting gun, and it is restricted by design to only hold 3 shells...
1400 in 20 gauge is another best kept secret, LOTs of these doing Serious Shotgun duty...and not just in the US.
Some places /countries so I am told, says "the gun cannot hold more than 3 shells - period"
I don't know where, I forget, may have changed...
All I know is, it is the shooter, not the shotgun, nor what is on the shotgun, that takes care of target need.
I am not going to be at your gun fight - Awerbuck
Understand I often post replies to a "lower level" of reader of postings.
Not everyone is a member of THR that reads these posts.
Not everyone is in the United States, and therefore many, and often many do have different Firearm Laws, Restrictions, Political Flavors, Interpretations of Firearm Laws, Opportunities to get any Firearm Lessons and Training.
For Example, one member shared that in Ireland I believe it was , the shortest barrel length he is allowed to have is 24".
New Zealand requires extensive background check to have long guns, and these must be locked at all times, NOT loaded, NOT readily accessible, and Ammunition NOT locked up with the gun.
Spinner can correct me on NZ Laws.
Re: Slings.
My take is to break this matter down to the lowest level, and reinforce gun fit, learning the gun bone stock, get lessons/training and then IF an instructor, trainer says for that student to get a sling ( or any other accessories) then do so.
Learn gun fit, correct basic fundamentals first, then advance.
For some...it is NOT legal to have ammunition already on the gun, be it sling, side saddle, or butt cuff.
For some, legalese *might* Interpret a sling on the gun while stored means "ready access" which *might* be interpreted as meaning one *might* be "thinking" self defense [NOT LEGAL].
Hunting? Fine get the gun, add the sling, then go to other locked cabinet and get the shotgun shells.
I never know if someone from another country , heck some jurisdictions here in the US, with restrictions is reading THR.
It might be FOR THEM and THEIR household, the best kept secret an 1100 in 20 ga, is best
Similar guns such as Beretta 303, 390, 391.
Winchester 1400 is the softest shooting gun, and it is restricted by design to only hold 3 shells...
1400 in 20 gauge is another best kept secret, LOTs of these doing Serious Shotgun duty...and not just in the US.
Some places /countries so I am told, says "the gun cannot hold more than 3 shells - period"
I don't know where, I forget, may have changed...
All I know is, it is the shooter, not the shotgun, nor what is on the shotgun, that takes care of target need.
I am not going to be at your gun fight - Awerbuck
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Fwiw
I do not even have sling swivels on the shotgun I have handy.
In fact, I keep a H&R Topper, Youth, 20 ga single shot shotgun handy.
Bone Stock, with fixed modified choke, that tosses some of the best pellet, buckshot patterns, and slug groups,
I want choke.
It also came with a Recoil pad, I added an Elastic Butt Cuff , other than that, the shotgun is Bone Stock.
Oh I have had other shotguns for Serious Situation use...
Internet has "influenced" me, and the more I read Internet, the more and more basic, and simple, I want matters...
And the more and more I am going to Rebel in regard to Software vs Hardware
I bet I could convince Dave to allow me post "Busted Hickory Axe Handle" as a Serious Shotgun...and I ain't gonna put a sling, light, sidesaddle, bayonet, heat shield, fuzzy dice or curb feelers on it, I promise.
I do not even have sling swivels on the shotgun I have handy.
In fact, I keep a H&R Topper, Youth, 20 ga single shot shotgun handy.
Bone Stock, with fixed modified choke, that tosses some of the best pellet, buckshot patterns, and slug groups,
I want choke.
It also came with a Recoil pad, I added an Elastic Butt Cuff , other than that, the shotgun is Bone Stock.
Oh I have had other shotguns for Serious Situation use...
Internet has "influenced" me, and the more I read Internet, the more and more basic, and simple, I want matters...
And the more and more I am going to Rebel in regard to Software vs Hardware
I bet I could convince Dave to allow me post "Busted Hickory Axe Handle" as a Serious Shotgun...and I ain't gonna put a sling, light, sidesaddle, bayonet, heat shield, fuzzy dice or curb feelers on it, I promise.
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