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I have always been fascinated by the concept of the "saturday night special" class of handguns; what they represent and especially the controversity which their existence stimulates. Recently, I have considered collecting them, starting with the most obvious and perhaps infamous of the present era, those produced by the now defunct "Ring of Fire" companies formerly located in southern California. What I am now looking for is information about other SNS's, especially those of earlier era's, i.e., prior to the 1968 Gun Control Act; for instance, what are some models/makes that one would have likely to encountered analogous to the modern-day Lorcins, Jennings, etc. Any information/links in regards to furthering my collection would be greatly appreciated.
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Your screen name, benzodiazepine, is a sedative-hypnotic and is a Central Nervous System (CNS) depressant. Is a category of drugs that slow normal brain function.

With a name like that, maybe you should stick to collecting stamps.
 
<How about the RG snubbies? Looked like pot metal after they broke, or blew up!

Stay safe.
Bob>

Thanks for the info Bob F; i'll look them up.






<Your screen name, benzodiazepine, is a sedative-hypnotic and is a Central Nervous System (CNS) depressant. Is a category of drugs that slow normal brain function.>

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<With a name like that, maybe you should stick to collecting stamps.>

please refrain from trolling my thread. thanks.
 
I can do this. A "saturday night special" is any firearm that a poor person can afford. Look for anything from 1985 to present under 100$ new price, and anything pre 1985 under 50$ new price. You can get new price at production from The Blue Book of Gun Values.
These guns are easy to identify, and all you need to be able to identify them is to understand why the term of "saturday night special" came about. It has absolutely nothing to do with quality, or reliablility,or the material they are made of. It only meant that no matter your income, you could afford one. They were only defensive weapons, not suitable for target shooting, or sustained shooting. Buy it. Try it. And save it to protect yourself.
Some of them were really decent defensive weapons, there are a few I wish I had kept.
 
The Iver Johnson and H&R topbreaks are a personal favorite of mine

Usually in .32

I have a small collection myself. One or two will actually fire, but I like my thumbs too much to try
 
Don't forget Armsco,Clerke,Davis,Excam,FIE,Hawes,Hopkins and Allen,Titan,Rhom,Stallard, and Arminius among others.

I was looking how to spell Arminius,and found some more to list!

There was another importer here in Atlanta,but I can't think of the name right now.

Before they were called Saterday Night Specials,they were also known as Suicide Specials.If think SNS came into common use in the 60's when the big push was started to control guns.
 
How about the RG snubbies? Looked like pot metal after they broke, or blew up!

I actually have one these in good condition and working order. I keep thinking if I hold on to it long enough, it will become a collector's item and much more valuable. :rolleyes:

Or I might trade it in for some good gov't cheese coupons at a gun buy back.
 
From Wikipedia:
A Saturday night special is an American colloquial term for a small, inexpensive handgun. The term is considered highly prejudicial, as it implies that the gun in question would only be owned for criminal means. The more inoffensive, and legally preferred, term for this class of firearm is junk guns.

The term "Saturday night special" is a slightly shortened version of the original term, "niggertown Saturday night special," which dropped from common use around the late 19th century. B. Bruce-Briggs wrote in the Public Interest, "It is difficult to escape the conclusion that the 'Saturday Night Special' is emphasized because it is cheap and being sold to a particular class of people. The name is sufficient evidence—the reference is to 'niggertown Saturday night.'"

The term "Saturday night special" is often used disparagingly to emphasize the poor quality of the gun or, for political reasons relating to gun control, to emphasize easy availability to those who are legally prevented from owning firearms, such as convicted criminals and minors.

The term is thought to indicate that the only reason for the manufacture of such a gun is for use in crime; in fact, studies show that criminals prefer high quality guns, in the largest caliber they can easily concel. Research has shown that that most criminals prefer guns that are easily concealable, large caliber, and well made (Guns Used in Crime: Firearms, Crime, and Criminal Justice--Selected Findings July 1995, NCJ-148201). Most guns used in violent crimes are large caliber revolvers, although semiautomatics are becomming more common.

The choice in guns, and the change from revolvers to semiautomatics, mirrors the choice in defensive weapons used by police and the legal civilian market. Many criminals, a majority in the case of juvenile criminals, obtained their guns through theft, or through a known fence selling stolen guns. Thise make the issue of the original cost of the guns wholly (in the case of stolen guns) or largely (in the case of fenced guns) irrellevant.
 
Some States (well at least one, Minnesota) define the term as follows:

(a) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit; or

(b) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch; or

(c) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter
 
Matt has mentioned the derivation of the term, and the sponsors of the Gun Control Act of 1968 often made no bones about its racist nature, especially in banning mail order sales of guns. The bill was passed, not in response to the killings of the Kennedys and Dr. King, but in response to the riots which followed the latter event. Both "liberal" and "conservative" gun control proponents made repeated references to forcing gun buyers to come "face to face" with the dealer. Now no one can tell if a person is a crook by seeing his face, but a dealer could certainly tell if the buyer was black. It was fully intended that a white dealer would not sell a gun to a black person. (The idea of a black dealer never occured to anyone, of course. The Feds weren't supposed to let that happen!)

GCA 68 also banned import of so-called "Saturday Night Specials" by defining them on the basis of size, sights, and material. Among the guns banned were the Walther PPK and the Browning Model 1910, certainly high quality guns. But the main target was the kind of inexpensive gun that "the criminal class" (another "liberal" term for black people) could afford.

If you go by the GCA 68 definition, you will collect some pretty good guns, not just the kinds of inexpensive pistols usually thought of in conjunction with the term Saturday Night Special.

Jim
 
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