Never owned a firearm, maybe never will

[Glack]

Let me preface this post by stating that I am not trying to "flame" you I am just a bit confused by your statements.

While I generally agree that if you have served your time that you should have your rights restored, it appears as though you have no remorse for your actions 11 years ago. Why is this? Why should you have all your rights restored if you still believe that you didn't do anything wrong? If you didn't do anything wrong why are you now a convicted felon?

I am confused as to why are you now acting like you are a victim? Are you guilty of commiting the felony the government convicted you of? Were you framed by the federal government?

When I first read your initial post you had my sympathy but as the thread progressed its obvious that you show no remorse for your prior actions. Why should the government restore your rights if you still cannot see the mistakes you made over 11 years ago?

 

[Moopheus]

I said it was a mistake, and I said was a guilty. Read much? But the punishment needs to fit the crime. I don't think my civil rights should be taken away for the rest of my life. Is that impossible for you to understand? I thought I made it VERY clear.

 

[Firethorn]

Multiple chimes...

My Suggestions:
Get a lawyer. A couple have been suggested.

Write the President. Heck, write your congresscritters. House and Senate. It can't hurt. Keep at least the first letter short and sweet. Include supporting documents(clean record, character references) for the aides, but remember that you're going to have to be very convincing to get even a minute of the president's time. If they ask for more information, give it to them.

Think about volunteering time for activities that your congressmen support. Get yourself noticed. A sleezier way would be to make a large campaign contribution.

 

[Moopheus]

So, let me get this straight, I should get a lawyer?

I wonder if there are a lot of lawyers on this board.

I did go to major law firm the other day, and they did tell me some things that sound good. If what they said is true, I'm much better off than I thought. All be all set for $4,000. This consists of filing two motions and a hearing in front a judge, BTW.

Although I'm sure a lawyer would never lie, I'll have to check with other lawyers to verify.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Moopheus, if you ever expect to achieve a favorable outcome in this quest, you are going to have to lose the attitude.

Although I'm sure a lawyer would never lie, I'll have to check with other lawyers to verify.

Did they GUARANTEE a result, or explain to you the process and tell you what they would charge? I believe I explained to you previously that the only thing a professional (such as an attorney) has to sell is their time and their knowledge. No attorney can guarantee an outcome, any more than a doctor can guarantee that he can cure you of 'X'.

You should, by all means, get a second opinion. Just remember that if all attorneys agreed on everything, there would never be any lawsuits. A lawyer in a one-lawyer town will starve in short order. The fact that a second attorney might see a case differently from the first does not mean that the first was a liar.

 

[Moopheus]

Moopheus, if you ever expect to achieve a favorable outcome in this quest, you are going to have to lose the attitude.

I'm not going to suppress my intelligence and discernment abilities for this. That's what you call "attitude" isn't it?

Did they GUARANTEE a result, or explain to you the process and tell you what they would charge? I believe I explained to you previously that the only thing a professional (such as an attorney) has to sell is their time and their knowledge. No attorney can guarantee an outcome, any more than a doctor can guarantee that he can cure you of 'X'.

As a matter of fact, I was guaranteed (yes, this word was used) a 98.9% (yes, this percentage) chance of success. And I've been to plenty of doctors. They usually do give you a good idea of whether or not they think they'll be successful. Most will refuse to operate if they think they're unqualified or believe the risk is too high.

It doesn't sound like you've been to too many doctors, or lawyers for that matter.

I'm probably going to say something that offends you Hawkmoon, but here it is. Many lawyers are crooks. No matter what badge of honor you attach to them, that's just the way it is.

Throwing money at a lawyer will not solve all your problems. In fact, if at all possible, I'd advise anyone not to get into circumstances where you'd ever need one. So, although you feel the need to defend this "profession" it's just like any other profession in that it should have accountability.

By the way, in your earlier post, I don't know how you get off thinking I have more money that you. I suppose that was a contemptuous remark.

I honestly do not think you care about my particular situation, and are more predisposed toward lecturing me about "attitude" which is very suspicious to say the least.

If that's all you got, this conversation is over.

 

[jacketch]

If not a troll, certainly someone with a real attitude. If you sak for advice, for a response, don't b!tch when you get it.

 

[Moopheus]

I never asked for advice. Read my first post.

But I do appreciate the advice I'm been given, from respectful and empathic individuals.

What I see here, is a need to project your own faults onto me.

Anyone else want to take a stab?

 

[Aguila Blanca]

If that's all you got, this conversation is over.

That is, indeed, all I've got. I entered into this "conversation" with the express intention of trying to help you with your situation. I see now that you are not mature enough to be trusted with a weapon, so at this point I truly hope you will ignore any advice I may have given you.

Adios, and don't let the door hit you in the behind on the way out.

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

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[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

In the military, I take it? I wouldn't go live in another country to kill people, so perhaps I'm different than you. If hate is your path - it distorts your view of other cultures.

I never realized that everyone who went into the military was a hate-filled sociopath looking for an opportunity to kill.

Thanks for clearing this up.

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

So you think I have an attitude? I probably do, I'm human after all, not an android

More like a troll.

 

[Moopheus]

Hawkmoon:

Is handling a weapon really comparable to writing a post that you find offensive?

I wouldn't think so, because that's totally irrelevant.

As you may or not know, lawyers say things all the time that hurt people's feelings. Would you say they shouldn't handle a weapon?

Part of maturity is thinking for yourself, and not seeking self validation from other people. If I'm immature because I refuse to grovel before you and act dumb so you'll feel better, that's perfectly fine with me. I have my own life and my own will to attend to.

If you'd really like to help me, as you claim, send me money. Put your money where your mouth is. I can get a lecture about my attitude from any bozo on the internet. I came here to talk to thinking men, like our founding fathers, not whipped little boys.

People don't want to hear the truth, I know. But I'm still going to deliver it. I don't know about you, but there are still some REAL Americans left in this country, that value freedom for all.

I may not want to marry you, but I'm not going to take away your right to arm yourself. Of course, going by your statements, you would like to see me defenceless. That's a curious and telling attitude you have. Do you even support the second amendment?

I never realized that everyone who went into the military was a hate-filled sociopath looking for an opportunity to kill.

Thanks for clearing this up.

That's a patent distortion of what I said, and you know it. Look in the mirror, and you'll see a troll.

 

[Leatherneck]

People don't want to hear the truth, I know. But I'm still going to deliver it.

That pretty much says it all.

TC
TFL Survivor

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

That's a patent distortion of what I said, and you know it.

No, that's an extremely accurate depiciton of your slur against military folks.

Look in the mirror, and you'll see a troll.

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[jetman]

Probably each and every one of us at some time in ours life has done something we regretted. Some regret the act after being caught and others learn their lesson before it becomes that serious, either through luck or just changing. I had a very similar conversation with an old High School friend at my 30th HS Reunion. and the new Ohio CCW law came up, and I told him I had just gotten mine. He also wanted to get one but since he had a misdemeanor pot offense on his record when 19. (over 30 years ago and long since clean) Since he was convicted of a drug related offense 30 years ago, he can't get a CCW license. He can buy guns, just not carry one legally. There ought to be an avenue for you to expunge your record. Good luck

 

[Moopheus]

No, that's an extremely accurate depiciton of your slur against military folks.

That's hilarious. I was talking about Archer, and only speculating about what he does, and why he does it. I wasn't making a blanket statement about military people everywhere.

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And what does that prove? Tell me.