Never owned a weapon...any advice...

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Taurus Judge is not junk. It is a good gun. Unique and very popular.
For home defense get a shotgun as it would be much better. If not a 12GA you could get a 410or 14GA. If you do get a 12 you could get lighter loads as there are more 12GA shotguns out there.
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First in you really need to get gun training unless you are former military. Know your local gun laws.
 
Why in the world would a Judge not be a good HD gun? If your thinking that there may be a problem with penetration with the 410 then all you would have to do is get creative and stagger the rounds. I stagger mine with a 6 shot first, 000 buck second, Long Colt third, 000 buck, Long Colt. The first shot is going to hit him guaranteed, if the bad guy still wants to hang around for "round" 2, its gonna get a lot worse. I dont understand why people recommend a shotgun for HD but a Judge is not a good one, go figure.
 
lol a 2 page debate all ready and the OP hasnt even replied. "you gun forums are all the same" hahaha
 
Really good place to start is with .22 and work up from there. A Ruger 10/22 rifle and a Ruger MK111 or 22/45 (same gun dirrerent grip) cannot be beat. .22 is available, cheap, and best way to start shooting. If you must start with centerfire get a Ruger Sp 101 or GP 100 in .357 and start with .38 special loads. A Mossberg 500 in 12 guage with reduced loads (common) or 20 guage would be a good shotgun. Any of these guns will last a lifetime with care, As always it would be good to go to a range or at least a good gun shop and make sure the guns "fit" you.
 
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you´re in the right place for tons of advice.

But you´ll need to go to a range or find a helpful
member/shooter to rent/try a few of the above mentioned.

reliable revolver
and a 870 or maybe even
a singleshot or 2barrel-shotgun.
 
As for a handgun, here's my take:

First, forget the small guns made for concealed carry. They are not for beginners, and at 6' 6", you've probably got big hands and will find those little guns difficult to hold onto, and they'll hurt like heck when you shoot them, which will cause you to want to shoot less. Plus they are difficult to control for a newbie to handguns.

I suggest a full size service pistol in 9mm - the kind LEO's carry. Find something that fits your hand well. Could be a CZ, FNP, Glock, Springfield XD, S&W M&P, S&W Sigma, Ruger P95, etc. Most all modern semi-auto handguns from a name company are well made and fairly reliable.

I suggest 9mm for several reasons. First, they recoil less than 45 ACP and 40's. It will be easier for you to control. Second, ammo is less expensive, allowing you more practice time at the range. Third, for self defense ammo, there are quite a few 9mm loads that pack quite a punch and should quiet the 9mm is for sissies crowd.

Finally, while I love my Ruger GP100 and my Dan Wesson, revolvers, in my opinion, require more practice and trigger control to attain proficiency than a full size semi-auto. They're just not as easy to shoot as accurately and quickly as a semi-auto. Sorry, but that's just the facts for a newbie. Yes, I know there are guys who can shoot revolvers faster and just as accurately as semi-autos, but using those guys is like comparing church league basketballers to Lebron James. It's just not the same.

Good luck in your new quest. :)
 
Newbie,

Unfortunately, you've tapped into a hornet's nest full of varied opinions. Some based on fact and experience, some based on nothing at all. Pretty difficult for a newbie to sort out.

What might work better for you in this forum is to read thru it and find 2-3 posters that seem well reasoned and experienced and contact them via PM.

I'll add my suggestions for your perusal.

As far as guns go, stick with quality. I'd rather have a good used gun than a pristine new in the box piece o' crap.

A good used S&W "K" or "L" frame revolver chambered in either .38 or .357 (you can fire .38's thru a gun chambered in .357, a very useful feature)

Or, if you're thinking semi-auto, then a 9mm Glock 19 or 17, a Smith and Wesson M&P, or a Springfield XD or XD-m. Of these, the Glock is easiest to find used.

A used Remington 870 in either 12 or 20 gauge would be a good choice. If kick or working the pump action is a concern for you, then a Remington 1100 or 11-87, as these will kick less and load themselves.

Were it me, I'd buy the handgun first, as it can pull duty as a home defense gun easily, while a shotgun can't be carried in a belt holster.

Good luck in your quest!
 
Buying a used gun is a crap shoot unless you know what you are doing. The 870 Remmington shotgun in no longer made with pride and there are less problems with the Mossberg 500. While the S&W's have better triggers out of the box the are not as sturdy as the Rugers. You can never make the S&W "stronger" but you can make the trigger on the Ruger better. The Ruger revolver will out last a S&W and it's cheaper to buy. I have nothing against S&W I just got my wife an expensive M&P 360. As indicated everyone has an opinion but what I just stated is fact. Go to a good gun shop and/or a range and try out some guns, Some people like revolvers and some like pistols. Get what you like.
 
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You're only a few minutes from Atlanta...I would go to a range there and rent some handguns and see what you like and what works best for you...then buy.
 
I dont understand why people recommend a shotgun for HD but a Judge is not a good one, go figure

Probably because a 12 gauge or 20 gauge shotgun with an 18" or 20" is worlds apart from a 3.5" or whatever barreled .410 rifled revolver, saying "shotguns are excellent for home defense" and saying "a snake gun is excellent for home defense aren't the same thing. I wouldn't trust little shot to penetrate much at all out of a Judge, it shoots doughnut-shaped patterns, it's got yards of freetravel for a .45 Colt (the load that is probably best out of the Judge anyway) slug to cover before making it to rifling, which can't possibly be good for accuracy and probably lets more gas out than a revolver made for only .45 Colt.


That's what I can come up with off the top of my head. I'm sure some of it may not be as big a deal or maybe even a non-issue, but personally I would get almost anything else for a defense gun.
 
Welcome.

Guns are tremendously fun as a hobby, and obviously have the potential to save a life in an emergency. Great to have more join the shooting community.

My advice is simply this, read your owners manuals closely, digest the info, ask questions, take your time, and be safe!

4 Gun Handling Rules To Live By:

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle to point at anything you aren't willing to shoot.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger unless your sights are on a target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

Welcome again and I hope you find great enjoyment and peace of mind with your new guns!
 
I'm a strong advocate of finding what points naturally for you so I'll agree with the others who recommend you find a range and try different handgun out. This allows a new shooter who is interested in getting the most bang for their buck to find what points naturally so they're more accurate and comfortable shooting. corneredcat has a great section on fitting the gun. I'd only add that you want to be able to pick the weapon up properly and point it at a safe target 20-30 feet away as if you were pointing your finger. Think pistol grip garden hose. If the sights line up properly without you having to lift or lower them the grip angle should be a good match for your natural pointing alignment.

As to shotguns, you've been given some good advice. I might only add that an inexpensive semiauto in 20 gauge would be more comfortable to shoot and can be had pretty easily.

If you're in the Knoxville area I'll be happy to help you find what fits you.
 
When it comes to a handgun that fits your hand and points naturally, the best thing you can do is handle/rent a bunch of guns, when you find "The Right One", you'll know…

it'll be the one that points naturally and settles comfortably in your hands, it'll feel like an extension of your arms

a few hints I found that work for me;
1; Weight is your freind- don't be afraid of a heavy gun, weight absorbs felt recoil, and makes it easier to keep your sights on target, lighter guns are easier to carry, but they transmit more felt recoil to the shooter

2; there are different kinds of recoil, common descriptors are "pushy", "whippy", "snappy", etc…
let's compare a 9mm Glock 17 to a 9mm CZ-75B, the Glock is a lightweight polymer body pistol, the CZ is a steel pistol, they both shoot the same ammo

the Glock's recoil has a bit of muzzle "flip" when fired, the muzzle of the gun rotates upward and back towards the shooter while the body of the pistol is pushes back towards the shooter, it's a "snappy" recoil, the Glock also has a subtle balance shift towards the muzzle as the magazine is emptied

the CZ is a heavier gun, when it's fired, the muzzle has a slight rise, and the gun is pushed straight back towards the shooter, it's a far more linear recoil, closer to the recoil of a 1911 style .45, a Browning High Power would have a similar linear recoil, the balance of the gun does not shift as the mag empties, thanks to the weight of the steel frame

both guns are excellent platforms, it comes down to which one fits your hand better

as far as the .45ACP goes, it has a "straight back" recoil, with an almost imperceptible muzzle rise, a very manageable, pleasant recoil (at least to me)

3; Revolvers have a sharper recoil impulse than semiautos, mainly because the semiauto uses some of the recoil energy to chamber the next round, some recoil energy goes into compressing the recoil spring by moving the slide rearwards, a revolver transmits most of the recoil impulse into the shooters hand, there's nothing to absorb recoil energy in the frame of the revolver, you can install cushioned grips to mitigate some of the recoil though

The best bet for a handgun that shouldn't aggravate your arthritis, you'd want a handgun that fires low-pressure rounds, low pressure rounds have less felt recoil than high-pressure rounds

Low pressure; 38 Special (revolver), .45 ACP (semiauto)
Medium pressure; 9mm, 38 Special +P
High pressure; .357 Magnum (revolver) .357 SIG (semi), .40S&W (semi), 10mm (semi)

4; longer barrels are more accurate, and reduce felt recoil, but are harder to carry concealed, short barrels are easier to conceal, and lighter, but are less accurate, noisier, and harder to keep on target, they also tend to increase felt recoil

Brands aside (that's a personal preference), I'd recommend .38 Special in a revolver, 9mm and ,45ACP in a semiauto
 
Thanks!

Sorry I've not replied sooner. I was getting reemed out by my doctor for not keeping up physical therapy.
I just wanted to thank all of you for your help and advice.
I'm probably about as green as a newbie can be, so some of your terms went right over my head, although many have stated I just have to get my hands on some handguns to see how they feel, and get some training.
I'm gonna hit a few gun shops (just got to find them) and do just that.
Any more info any of you have I'll listen to. I have buddy in "The Stan" fighting for us, and they told me I should check out the S&W M&P (would rather play with their machine guns though! lol).
Thanks again & God Bless!
 
I like the M&P revolvers but I'm sure they were refering to the semi-auto pistols. Can't go wrong with an M&P - other popular semi-autos are Sig-Sauer, Glock and Springfield XD and our old friend the 1911 ACP. Take your time but don't rule out the Ruger .22s either the Mark III or the 22/45 same gun different grips. Check them out. .22 is the best place to start and many (most) end up shooting more .22 than anything else for a variety of reasons, cheap, fun, and cheap and accurate as well.
 
To OP:

That question, on a forum like this, is like throwing raw meat to a pack of Dobermans. I'm just saying........... Your going to need a month to sort through the advice this will generate by the time this thread runs its course. This in one fell swoop will generate caliber wars, pistol versus revolver, pump versus semiauto.............blah blah blah blah.............yada yada yada......

But then again thats half the fun!:D

I'd offer some advice but, yeah it wouldn't be worth anything. Good luck!
 
Instead of hitting gun shops, as close as you are to Atlanta, there has to be a few ranges around that rent guns to shooters. Find one, with instructors handy, an hour with an instructor usually costs a minimal amount, in the 25-40 dollar range. A good bit of instructors own several guns anyway, find one who does and ask that he or she bring some of their collection along for you to try out. If you're a total rookie at guns, that instructor fee you pay is a investment that will pay off big time for you. They will school you in proper gun handling, and help you learn to shoot the proper way. I've shot for the better part of my life, I'm 55 now, and I still won't teach anyone to shoot, as I don't want to teach others the bad habits I'm sure I've picked up along the way.

I won't advise on a certain manufacturer, or caliber of gun for you, finding one that feels comfortable for you specifically is the best advice I can offer. What I might like, you'd likely hate. I will echo the advice that you stay away from a smaller firearm, like a compact semi-auto or a short barreled revolver, they're hard to shoot accurately for an experienced shooter, and you will hate the recoil.

But make sure you have a well stocked checking account, or a clear credit card with a high limit, as shooting sports, and gun buying tends to be about the most addictive habit you'll ever have. But it's fun, and the wife doesn't complain as much about you hitting the gun shop or range near as much as they do the bar.
 
Welcome.

Lots of good advice here. Mine is...find a local range and dont act like you know everything (sounds like you're not that type anyway). You will find lots of knowlegable folks to help you.

Yep, try all the different guns you can and find the one that suits you best.

Read lots here...esp the threads in the Strategy section....there are so many ethical and legal sides to "using" your firearm....find out as much as you can so you can make the best...and fastest...decisions when/if you need to.

Stay safe.
 
Hey Newbie...more advice for what it's worth:

If you have aches and pains...choose the defense caliber with the least recoil AND a gun that helps minimize it. (Forget snubbies & super compacts).

Meaning, look seriously at the 9mm....not only will it offer the least recoil, it's the cheapest of the defense-level calibers and you'll be able to practice more.

I remember when I started learning to shoot...as a complete non-shooter. I had aches and pains from new stances and the jarring of recoil. With practice, my body adapted, but there is always a physical element to shooting.


Look at the 9mms in the fullsize range: the Glock 19, the Springfield XD, and my favorite, the S&W M&P. And each of these also come in more compact sizes.
 
OK - I will try this for advise.

Find a local gunshop privately owned and spend a little time there with whoever is most knowledgable regarding firearms, and still has a little time to spend answering your questions.

One question to ask is wether there is a local group of shooters that are friendly and helpful that will spend a little time sharing both their knowledge and possibly their guns.

With that, you will be better equiped to sort the internet advise into something more usable for you, and less confusing.

Broad questions always bring so many different opinions that persons new to guns can not sort through all the information to find out what is best for them.

There are basic principles that you can pick out through the various responses, so by all means take as much time as you can to read them and look perhaps for patterns. Those who give absolutes may be less credible simply because a closed mind will not allow them to adventure into area's that might be useful. In other words my advise when you hear things like "don't even think about this gun" , or " this is the only decent gun to consider" is to take it with a grain of salt so to speak.

My local shop has a person available to work specificaly with new gun owners to help them make good choices based on their individual needs. If you can find a good person who gives you information without bias, you will gain a lot.
 
Call me cynical, but I put little providence in advice from a gun store counter guy. I know their job is to sell guns, and preferably the model that gets them the biggest sales commission. Now, I have friends who work at shops that will give me the "straight poop" most of the time, but I offered the advice to use a instructor who will probably willingly bring his own collection guns in for a lesson, and doesn't have a bias (hopefully) about some certain manufacturer of firearms.

And, never go to a big box place, like a Cabella's or Gander Mountain for advice about what gun to buy!
 
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