New Jersey?

[thegatman]

For ANY firearm to be legal in New Jersey, it must now meet two criteria established by this law:

1) the firearm must be imprinted with a serial number; and

2) the serial number must be registered with a federally licensed manufacturer.

Under these requirements, the following types of firearms are now banned in New Jersey with no grandfathering or exceptions:

1) All pre-1968 rifles, shotguns, and handguns without serial numbers. Warning: Prior to 1968, there was no federal law requiring guns to have serial numbers.

2) All modern rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers with serial numbers, but are not registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. This would include most modern imported rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers, plus foreign firearms, and military surplus firearms from countries around the world, if these companies were not federally licensed manufacturers (e.g., Lugers, P-38s, Mausers, Arisakas, Enfields, SKSs, Carcanos, Webleys, Norincos, Mosins, etc.).

3) All BB guns without serial numbers. New Jersey includes BB Guns/Air Guns in its legal definition of a “firearm.”

4) All BB guns with serial numbers but are not registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. This would include most BB guns made, because there is no federal firearms manufacturing license required to make BB guns (e.g., Daisy, Crossman, Gamo, etc.).

5) All muzzleloading/black powder firearms without serial numbers. New Jersey includes black powder guns in its legal definition of “firearm.”

6) All muzzleloading/black powder firearms with serial numbers but are not registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. This would include most muzzleloading/black powder firearms made and/or imported because there is no federal firearms manufacturing license required to make or import muzzleloading/black powder firearms.

5) All antique firearms without serial numbers. Antique firearms are “firearms” under New Jersey law.

6) All antique firearms with serial numbers but are not registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. This would include most antique firearms because a federal firearms manufacturing license did not even exist at the time the antique firearms were manufactured.

 

[MEHavey]

If as stated above, it won't stand court challenge...
already playing out in bits & pieces: https://newjerseymonitor.com/2023/0...e-of-new-jerseys-new-concealed-carry-gun-law/
but meanwhile irreparable damage will have been done.

 

[Robert]

Do you have a link to the actual law?

 

[Armybrat]

No serial numbers on these prewar Winchester .22 single shot rifles.

 

[Speedo66]

Looks like a lot of thought process was involved by the lawmakers.

Not surprising.

 

[CapnMac]

Have a link to that law (or bill)?
I did a quick scan and found nothing more onerous than the existing NJ laws.
Mind, I did not deep-dive look in the slightest, it being Sunday, and my being in Texas.

That synopsis looks like who ever wrote it watches far too much NCIS Trenton and CSI:Bayonne and imagines TV to be reality.

As written, the State would subject legal gun owners to a rather outrageous "taking" which would have wanted a long-lead-time intermediate period to allow "disposal" of the 'criminal' items. Just as a quick scan, that's a huge number of firearms to make into contraband.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Colorado's new "ghost gun" law specifically exempts pre-GCA 68 firearms without serial numbers. At least they weren't THAT stupid here.

 

[AlexanderA]

(1) I would be skeptical that that's what the New Jersey law actually provides, and
(2) If true, that would unquestionably be slapped down by the courts.

 

[bdickens]

My money is on this being some half-baked third-party hearsay.

 

[AlexanderA]

My money is on this being some half-baked third-party hearsay.

Clickbait. Sensationalism. Alarmism. Financial contributions. I see this all the time regarding the gun issue, on both sides. There's a "professional class" of activists that milk guns for all they're worth. That's why the issue will never go away -- there's too much money to be made.

 

[Old Dog]

3) All BB guns without serial numbers. New Jersey includes BB Guns/Air Guns in its legal definition of a “firearm.”

Even Biden would say, "C'mon, man!"

Clickbait. Sensationalism. Alarmism. Financial contributions. I see this all the time regarding the gun issue, on both sides. There's a "professional class" of activists that milk guns for all they're worth. That's why the issue will never go away -- there's too much money to be made.

Alex, I am inclined to side with you on this one.

 

[Ignition Override]

Alexander A: It's probably a routine method of fund-raising, too subtle for the working public to grasp.

 

[Ks5shooter]

My money is on this being some half-baked third-party hearsay.

Being a NJ resident and having to use my firearm id card to buy a bb gun.I would not doubt anything they try here in this state.Just when you think they have gone waaaay too far they push the limit.Again.

 

[rust collector]

Check your source, OP. They would be howling to high heaven on the video gun channels if something like this was being considered, much less passed. Although NJ seems intent on outdoing NY, this would be costly for them and they know it.

 

[The Last Outlaw]

Even Biden would say, "C'mon, man!"
Alex, I am inclined to side with you on this one.

I live in a “free state”, but the town I live in considers discharging a bb or pellet gun equivalent to discharging a firearm in city limits.

 

[shootstraight57]

This is why I moved out of New Jersey to Pennsylvania years ago!

 

[lilguy]

This is why I moved out of New Jersey to Pennsylvania years ago!

Don’t be complacent, keep fighting hard. It can happen anywhere.

 

[bdickens]

Being a NJ resident and having to use my firearm id card to buy a bb gun.I would not doubt anything they try here in this state.Just when you think they have gone waaaay too far they push the limit.Again.

Well, anyone have a link to this alleged law?

 

[MEHavey]

Here's part of it:
>
> In 2019, New Jersey strengthened its ghost gun law by making it
> unlawful to knowingly possess, transfer, ship, sell, or dispose of,
> a firearm that was manufactured or otherwise assembled using
> a firearm frame or firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number
> registered with a federally licensed manufacturer.
>
> Makes it unlawful for a person who is not registered or licensed to
> manufacture firearms to purchase or obtain an unserialized frame
> or receiver or any combination of parts “from which a firearm without
> a serial number may be readily manufactured or otherwise assembled[.]
> (For these purposes, the definition of “frame or receiver” also includes
> some unfinished frames and receivers, including “any object or part
> which is not a firearm frame or receiver in finished form but is designed
> or intended to be used for that purpose and which may readily be made
> into a firearm frame or receiver through milling or other means.”)4
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/ghost-guns-in-new-jersey/

They were going after "ghost guns," but managed to sweep everything else up in a poorly written bill.

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[Frank Ettin]

Pretty pointless to try to discuss a law without the actual law.

 

[Spats McGee]

After discussion with the other attorneys on staff, it's been decided to reopen this one with what we believe to be the current version of the law in question: https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2022/title-2c/section-2c-39-3/