Stag's main assets are CNC machines and the site where they make the rifles. Only 150 employees. Someone - maybe even a current employee - will buy their equipment and open a new business with some tacti-cool name. There will be no impact on the overall AR market.
Stag Arms owner pleads guilty to federal firearms charges, must leave gun business
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(Someone will get it.)I've got a Stag Lower. It's increasing in value exponentially as we speak! :banghead:
You know the law. You know you need to obey the law. It's not that hard to obey it (in this particular case). If you don't obey it, you pay the consequences.
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Aaah but the first word is also Stagarms
I have a S&W M&P15 former Colorado Troopers weapon bought off Gunbroker. He stated it was early mfr and Stag made them for S&W. Seems to be mil spec, I dropped a Velocity Trigger into it earlier this year no prob.
Somewhere I hope I still have a Stag Arms shopping bag too.
Lycidas Janwor
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This is such a bummer. Stag makes good stuff too, at a reasonable price. I hope they can regroup and come back stronger for it.
CapnMac
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Who is to say, that, in a century or so. with such things relegated to the C&R list that there wil not be collectors?
Having dealt with environmental paperwork and some with FDA stuff, it is very difficult to be perfectly in compliance. The missing lowers are likely just a case of they can't find the paperwork to close the loop on where they went. They may know through other means, but can't prove it with the proper paperwork. I mention this largely since it was a fine only.
Either way, they messed up.
Either way, they messed up.
morcey2
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You win Sweden. AnselHazen gets Luxembourg.
Mac,
While there are always differing opinions, Stag does make a decent AR.
However, in no way is it sufficiently superior or sufficiently unique or sufficiently desirable to make its products collector items simply because the company may (or actually does) cease production.
In a century or so, Stag ARs will be no more of a collector item than any other AR of comparable quality.
I'm addressing the notion that if Stag does not come back, its products are instantly rendered collector pieces & value somehow skyrockets TODAY.
Denis
While there are always differing opinions, Stag does make a decent AR.
However, in no way is it sufficiently superior or sufficiently unique or sufficiently desirable to make its products collector items simply because the company may (or actually does) cease production.
In a century or so, Stag ARs will be no more of a collector item than any other AR of comparable quality.
I'm addressing the notion that if Stag does not come back, its products are instantly rendered collector pieces & value somehow skyrockets TODAY.
Denis
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DPris,
What a Grinch! Here I am sitting with a AR Lower hoping I finally got ahead of the collectors market.
(sigh)
What a Grinch! Here I am sitting with a AR Lower hoping I finally got ahead of the collectors market.
(sigh)
Don't mean to be a Grinch, just trying to avoid people getting disappointed in thinking they're suddenly sitting on a gold mine if they own a Stag product.
They're no better quality today than they were last week, no worse quality than the week before, and there's no good reason on earth for anybody to pay collector prices for a Stag just because the company may or may not remain in business.
Collectors buy for other reasons beyond "Um, cuz they don't make this brand any more".
Or "Hey, come'n looky my Stag. It's the prize centerpiece of my collection!!!!"
Why?
"Uh.....cuz they don't make Stag's anymore!"
Is it any better than a dozen other AR makers?
"Well...no. But- they don't MAKE 'em no more!!!!"
Thanks, but I'll just go shoot my Fill-In-The-Blank. I know what your Stag looks like.
Denis
They're no better quality today than they were last week, no worse quality than the week before, and there's no good reason on earth for anybody to pay collector prices for a Stag just because the company may or may not remain in business.
Collectors buy for other reasons beyond "Um, cuz they don't make this brand any more".
Or "Hey, come'n looky my Stag. It's the prize centerpiece of my collection!!!!"
Why?
"Uh.....cuz they don't make Stag's anymore!"
Is it any better than a dozen other AR makers?
"Well...no. But- they don't MAKE 'em no more!!!!"
Thanks, but I'll just go shoot my Fill-In-The-Blank. I know what your Stag looks like.
Denis
The "collector item" thing is showing up on other forums.
Your Stag is worth no more today than it was yesterday.
And it won't be worth any more tomorrow than it is today.
The cessation of one AR maker among dozens (even if the company doesn't return after a sale) does not automatically make its products instant gold.
Denis
What a shame. I have 8 rifles in my safe with Stag Arms stamp on them!
I was hoping to sell them and retire!
WestKentucky
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I have had 2 stag rifles. No heartburn from me if they go the way of the dodo bird. Competition in the industry is great, but their guns weren't super special...well the lefty upper was but somebody will take that and run with it.
That's pretty much the nub right there- prospective Stag buyers would be looking more at the features a particular sample would have to offer than the Stag stamping on the lower.
The left-hand models would be one example.
I'm kinda fond of my Model 3, with the setup as it sits here the optic perfectly co-witnesses with the sights I have on it (as in red dot sits right on top of the front sight when the backup irons are up), but I'm under no illusions that it's suddenly escalated in value beyond what somebody else might be willing to pay for the configuration itself.
Good gun? Yes.
Sell & pay off the house? No.
Denis
The left-hand models would be one example.
I'm kinda fond of my Model 3, with the setup as it sits here the optic perfectly co-witnesses with the sights I have on it (as in red dot sits right on top of the front sight when the backup irons are up), but I'm under no illusions that it's suddenly escalated in value beyond what somebody else might be willing to pay for the configuration itself.
Good gun? Yes.
Sell & pay off the house? No.
Denis
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