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whats the difference between the ruger new model blackhawk and the super blackhawk? thanks.
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tahoe2
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grip size??
hey ralph is the Super BH grip bigger than the New Model grip ??
I have a NMBH in .41 mag and was considering a grip change, as my hands are larger than the grip (pinky hangs below).
hey ralph is the Super BH grip bigger than the New Model grip ??
I have a NMBH in .41 mag and was considering a grip change, as my hands are larger than the grip (pinky hangs below).
Beagle-zebub
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Okay, here goes. Hopefully someone will confirm this for me....
1. The Super Blackhawk, except in the 5.5" barrel length, has an unfluter cylinder, which makes it heavier and thus more controllable while firing the .44 magnum.
2. Whereas the Blackhawk has an aluminum gripframe and ejector-rod housing, those parts on the Super Blackhawk are made of steel. That adds a little more weight, and thus a little more control. I want to say, however, that on stainless Blackhawk models, the grip frames and ejector housings are steel instead of aluminum, which accounts for the slight weight difference between carbon steel and stainless Blackhawks with identical chamberings and barrel lengths.
3. The grip on the Super Blackhawk is much larger--it's designed to be a lot more like the grips on the Colt Walker and Dragoon cap 'n' ball revolvers, the powerhouse revolvers of their days. The pointy-bottomed trigger guard on most Super Blackhawks is an homage to those old Colts.
4. Blackhawks are only offered in 4.75" and 6.5" barrel lengths, while Supers come in 4.75, 5.5", 7.5", and 9.5".
BUT, there is now an exception to this convention: the newly-introduced Blackhawks in .44 Special. These are built on a smaller frame-size than the Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks, and use a steel grip-frame that is borrowed (like the frame for the body) from the New Vaquero.
1. The Super Blackhawk, except in the 5.5" barrel length, has an unfluter cylinder, which makes it heavier and thus more controllable while firing the .44 magnum.
2. Whereas the Blackhawk has an aluminum gripframe and ejector-rod housing, those parts on the Super Blackhawk are made of steel. That adds a little more weight, and thus a little more control. I want to say, however, that on stainless Blackhawk models, the grip frames and ejector housings are steel instead of aluminum, which accounts for the slight weight difference between carbon steel and stainless Blackhawks with identical chamberings and barrel lengths.
3. The grip on the Super Blackhawk is much larger--it's designed to be a lot more like the grips on the Colt Walker and Dragoon cap 'n' ball revolvers, the powerhouse revolvers of their days. The pointy-bottomed trigger guard on most Super Blackhawks is an homage to those old Colts.
4. Blackhawks are only offered in 4.75" and 6.5" barrel lengths, while Supers come in 4.75, 5.5", 7.5", and 9.5".
BUT, there is now an exception to this convention: the newly-introduced Blackhawks in .44 Special. These are built on a smaller frame-size than the Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks, and use a steel grip-frame that is borrowed (like the frame for the body) from the New Vaquero.
CraigC
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This is quite the convoluted subject but post #6 summed it up nicely. I'll add a few details.
Until the new mid-frame flat-tops, starting with the 50th anniversary .357 in 2005, all New Model Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks were built on the same frame. The .357 was one year only but the line has been expanded to include .44Spl's and .45Colt's. These have been built in 4 5/8", 5½" and 7½" lengths, blued and stainless, standard and Bisley grip frames.
There have also been .41Mag and .44Mag large frame flat-tops, starting with the .44 anniversary model in 2006.
4 5/8" and 5½" Supers have the Blackhawk grip frame, which is about a quarter inch shorter than the long Dragoon/Hunter grip frames. I don't like to use the terms "larger/smaller", because the only difference is in the length.
Historically, "Super Blackhawk" was reserved for .44Mag's only but both .41Mag and .45Colt Hunter models are stamped "Super Blackhawk".
In addition, .45Colt Blackhawks have been offered in 5½" and 7½" lengths.
Until the new mid-frame flat-tops, starting with the 50th anniversary .357 in 2005, all New Model Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks were built on the same frame. The .357 was one year only but the line has been expanded to include .44Spl's and .45Colt's. These have been built in 4 5/8", 5½" and 7½" lengths, blued and stainless, standard and Bisley grip frames.
There have also been .41Mag and .44Mag large frame flat-tops, starting with the .44 anniversary model in 2006.
4 5/8" and 5½" Supers have the Blackhawk grip frame, which is about a quarter inch shorter than the long Dragoon/Hunter grip frames. I don't like to use the terms "larger/smaller", because the only difference is in the length.
Historically, "Super Blackhawk" was reserved for .44Mag's only but both .41Mag and .45Colt Hunter models are stamped "Super Blackhawk".
In addition, .45Colt Blackhawks have been offered in 5½" and 7½" lengths.
CraigC
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Obviously, to me, because I already know the difference. I just like to be more specific than that.
huntsman
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I just bought a new .45 convert with a 5.5" barrel
tahoe2
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so if I want a larger grip frame (round trigger gaurd) for my NMBH, I need to go with a NMSBH "hunter" version, which is only available in stainless, correct ??
If by larger you mean longer then yes that's correct.
It sure would be nice if Ruger offered the option for the longer and somewhat larger grip frame on all their guns.....might be nice for people with longer and larger hands!
I don't mind the 3 finger grip with the pinky hooked under for most single action shooting but when the recoil starts getting up there it's nice to be able to fit them all on the grip.
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