New Movie, New Silly Gun Thing

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There is a new movie coming out with Morgan Freeman and Angelina Jolie. It is called WANTED.

In the movie, they teach a guy to "curve the bullet". So, holding the gun sideways (presumably because that is the way it comes out of the box) he whips the gun while shooting it and the bullet acts like a curveball in flight - horizontally. :what:

Uh-huh. :scrutiny:

Now I am a lawyer and I deal with the absurb on an almost daily basis. Two thoughts immediately come to mind. The first is, how long before somebody gets shot trying this, and the second is, when will come the first lawsuit brought because somebody could not "curve the bullet"? (and some lawyer thinks that it can curve in flight (by means other than wind or gravity) :banghead:

What do you folks think?

The Doc is out shaking his head now. :cool:

PS, The assumption about lawyers thinking this could be true is based on a real case where a train hit a car full of teens that went around the train gates. The lawyer asked the engineer why he could not have steered the train out of the way of the car with the steering wheel on the front of the locomotive. The steering wheel was a brake wheel! What a moron. :mad:
 
There is a monkey-see slant to any behavior, not just in movies. But I cannot totally denigrate your concept.

George Reeves once had to talk a small child out of shooting him with his dad's revolver.

And you know of the movie "300" I would presume. I am a professional sharpener and I've had to fix bread knives damaged in "sword fighting" by the younger night staff of a bread shop. Your idea is alive and well.

But if bad ideas are produced, then art and literature should be allowed to produce good ideas, as well. Many actors who have played doctors in movies often have fans come to them years later citing that the fictional depiction resulted in medical school.

Yup, a "Jackass" fan is going to shoot his buddy in the head, no doubt. My view is that death is simply a matter of time waiting in the wings.

Rumor has it that a pre-quel of "300" is being discused, so it is always possible those idiots will behead themselves first.
 
You can't curve an ogive-shaped bullet spinning around its own axis, that's kind of the point...

The lawyer asked the engineer why he could not have steered the train out of the way of the car...

How did he pass law school? Hell, how did he pass elementary school?
 
DrLaw - they didn't teach him how to turn the bullet with any hand motion in Wanted.

The student is telekinetic. The hand motion is simply a focusing action in order to allow the guy a tactile manner of controlling the bullet flight. That same telekinesis helped Angelina's character plop the kid into the passenger seat of a spinning, speeding automobile without shattering his legs.
 
DougDubya said:
helped Angelina's character

The problem with that theory is that the guys at the trailor park think they have divine powers because once in a while they pick the correct lottery numbers.

I think the OP isn't debating six-sense style powers, he's worried an idiot is going to shoot someone. And yes, I believe it's just a matter of time. After all, Hanna Montana is approaching one billion dollars sales of a clothing and video line.

That's people. Yes, a lawsuit is coming. That's no reason to blunt the creation of art.
 
My bad, you are right

Bruce, you are right. I didn't see anything looking like it was talking about this movie in a quick view of the General Discusions.

Sorry about that.

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
PS, The assumption about lawyers thinking this could be true is based on a real case where a train hit a car full of teens that went around the train gates. The lawyer asked the engineer why he could not have steered the train out of the way of the car with the steering wheel on the front of the locomotive. The steering wheel was a brake wheel! What a moron.

I start law school shortly. Should I expect to read any of these bizarre cases in any of my classes? They sound entertaining if nothing else. Did the opinion address the moronic nature of the lawyers statement in the above case?
 
This thread is different, as it concerns the legal ramifications. Myself, I'm more worried that some idiot at the gun range will try this and sweep me with their muzzle. On the whole, I think presenting a concept like this in the movies - something that involves a deadly weapon - and showing it's positive use in an utterly unrealistic and irresponsible manner is... well... irresponsible. I'm POSITIVE some idiot will try this, but the bullet won't hit the idiot in front of him trying the stunt with him, it'll hit the innocent person whom he sweeps with the muzzle when he pulls the trigger to "curve" the bullet.
 
Prince Yamato said:
On the whole, I think presenting a concept like this in the movies - something that involves a deadly weapon - and showing it's positive use in an utterly unrealistic and irresponsible manner is... well... irresponsible.

Agreed. Science fiction, fantasy or what have you is one thing. But these somewhat reality-focused shows or films that present "all-plastic Glock 7's invisible to metal detectors" or "curveball bullets" annoy me. You just know someone will try or believe it.

If you don't want to portray the truth, stick to plasma cannons, space aliens or dragons and fireballs conjured from the fingers of wizards.
 
The Old Fuff's bullets curve every which way. I know because I find them in the outer edges of the target... :what:

When I'm lucky :D
 
Yes

I start law school shortly. Should I expect to read any of these bizarre cases in any of my classes?

Yes, This one involves an aged Indian fighter. Check out Lason v. State in 11 Southern 2nd. Cannot remember the whole cite for it.

You will also probably get taught about a case of finding a toe in a Chaw of Tobbacco, and the little boy getting injured by an early cannister vaccum cleaner.

Gun Content for here, for law school, just when the accomplice gets murder charges for the other guy doing the shooting.

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
"I didn't mean to hit him, officer, I just slipped on the ground and the bullet curved. It was an accident."

The sad thing is, this will probably used as a defense and there will probably be some committee convened at the state level and at our (taxpayer's) expense, to determine if "bullet curving" is possible.

The thing that really makes me angry though is that this display of theatrics isn't even as benign as the sideways "gangsta" shooting of a pistol. Though that is an inaccurate way to shoot a pistol, at least you're pointing the gun at the target. This "curving of the bullet" requires you to pull the trigger whilst your gun is pointed away from the target- you must presumably engage in a muzzle sweep to pull it off. I have a HUGE problem with this. The guys shooting gangsta style shoot left and low. The guys trying to "curve the bullet" will shoot whoever is closest to their strongside in the torso or head and end up with a smoking barrel pointing at a missed target.
 
It's a movie. If people honestly believed everything they saw happen in movies millions would have been preparing for the comming zombie apocalypse ever since Night of the Living Dead in 1969.









...not that I haven't been stockpiling food, weapons and ammo for the inevitable zombie apocalypse myself. Ya just never know...
 
It's a movie. If people honestly believed everything they saw happen in movies millions would have been preparing for the comming zombie apocalypse ever since Night of the Living Dead in 1969.

Again, my issue is that whereas most things gun-related in movies are unrealistic, such as Uzis blowing up cars or the bmgs knocking people across hallways in, and have little to no effect in the real world, this movie features a technique which will probably be emulated by some and may have serious consequences for those who attempt it. It's not innocuous, it's irresponsible behavior and unrealistic physics, but it's presented as a viable technique.
 
I'm sorry... You're worried some dumb-arse is going to try and do something stupid and someone is going to get killed?

I don't see the problem. I think that would fall into the 'Darwin' category, wouldn't it?

:D (I keed, I keed...)
 
Again, my issue is that whereas most things gun-related in movies are unrealistic, such as Uzis blowing up cars or the bmgs knocking people across hallways in, and have little to no effect in the real world, this movie features a technique which will probably be emulated by some and may have serious consequences for those who attempt it. It's not innocuous, it's irresponsible behavior and unrealistic physics, but it's presented as a viable technique.
Guess I should not have watched star wars then, I STILL can't pick up my X-Wing with the force.
 
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