New Sig 226 V New Sig 226 German....is there a differnce?

[biggameballs]

New Sig 226 V New Sig 226 German....is there a differnce?

Just ordered up a Ruger 1911. I heard I may be waiting a while so I may have to buy something to hold me over a while. Looking at some of the online gun retailers I see that the Sig 226 can vary pretty drastically in price. I've found some for $650 but they state they are the "german" model. It looks the same as the regular 226 to me. When I told my LGS that I could get one for that price he said I better scoop it up becasue it was less then what they could even get one for.

Is there any differnce between the German model and the American made 226? How could it be that I can find them online for less then what my LGS can get them for?

 

[1KPerDay]

The primary difference is the German guns have stamped/welded slides with pinned-in breech blocks, and internal extractors.

The new ones have one-piece stainless slides with external extractors. Some models (I'm not sure which) had stainless slides with internal extractors IIRC. But don't quote me on that.

For my money, I love my German P226. My brother has a new P229R and it's been excellent also.

You should be able to do better than $650 for a used W. German model. If it's NIB, yeah, I'd pay that.

 

[Bovice]

If the German one is in good condition for 650, take it. My dad scooped one up for 600. It had hardly been fired.

The difference is that the german ones have an internal extractor, stamped and rolled sheet metal slides, and german proof marks. They feel a little different than the milled slide ones, but function is awesome.

Even if it isn't in perfect shape, you can send it back to SIG Sauer and they'll go over it and replace what needs replacing for a decent price. But since you're saying it was at 650, I'm guessing that it's in 90% or better condition.

 

[chris in va]

Generally speaking, the older German models are more sought-after with the folded slide. I can certainly attest my German 220 was dead reliable.

BTW I wouldn't call the slides 'sheet metal' which conjures up something like an AK build. These slides are quite thick and you wouldn't know they are folded unless you look closely at the interior workings.

 

[biggameballs]

Are you guys talking about an older style German one? The gun I'm reffering to is the exact same looking gun as a brand new SIG 226. The seller is claiming only 500 were imported from Germany.

The only difference they list is that it has matching serial numbers on slide, frame, and barrel and that the slide is listed as carbon steel with black oxide finish.

 

[sigarms228]

There are a couple different "new German" P226s available right now. One has the classic folded steel slide with internal extracor and the other has the stainless steel slide with the external extractor.

The one I have seen going for the lower price, for whatever reason, has been the one with the stainless steel slide and external extracor. I have seen pictures of that with the standard and E2 type grips. I believe that may be what you are referring to biggameballs. I have not heard of any difference between that an the Exterer made models other than the triple serial numbers. If I was in the market for a new P226 I would not hesitate to buy one for myself.

I can't answer your question about pricing however.

 

[biggameballs]

Here is a link to the one I'm reffering to.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_28/products_id/77738


Is it worth an extra $50-$100 to get the american one with the machined slide and external extractor?

And to really make myself look like a dumb azz what is the funtional/reliability difference of the external/internal extractor.

 

[sigarms228]

Here is a link to the one I'm reffering to.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_28/products_id/77738


Is it worth an extra $50-$100 to get the american one with the machined slide and external extractor?

And to really make myself look like a dumb azz what is the funtional/reliability difference of the external/internal extractor.

It depends on if the Exeter made one has night sights or not and if that is important to you. The one from Bud's looks to be a heck of a deal and it also has machined slide and external extractor but I believe it has standard SIG contrast sights.

There is no difference in reliability IMO between the internal extractor/folded steel slide and external extractor/machine slide versions assuming you clean your guns fairly regularly. In the rare event that you ever have a problem with an extractor the external extractors are easier to change.

 

[wgsigs]

The gun in the Bud's ad looks to me to have an external extractor, which I believe means it has the milled stainless steel slide. AFAIK all folded carbon steel slide SIGs have internal extractors.

Sigarms228 beat me to it.

 

[1KPerDay]

To me the original SIG design with the stamped/welded slide is the one that has been proven to work. If I saw two used or new P226s side by side, one with milled/external and one with stamped/internal, I'd pay more for the stamped/internal. But I'm weird.

 

[Bovice]

BTW I wouldn't call the slides 'sheet metal' which conjures up something like an AK build. These slides are quite thick and you wouldn't know they are folded unless you look closely at the interior workings.

The "sheet" is simply thicker in this case. Just like automotive body panels from the 70s to the 80s to the 90s. They've gone down in thickness and changed material, but thickness doesn't change the definition. I don't think anybody would draw a parallel between an AK-47 and a P226, the workmanship is different like day and night.

It's pretty easy to see how it was made. If you field strip it and look at the inside of the slide, you can see welds. The welds are done very well, but you can see them. Still 100% solid and reliable though.