New Tisas (Turkish) M1911A1

[AlexanderA]

It all depends on what you want to do with the gun. I'm a collector, and a onetime reenactor. Therefore, for me, authenticity is more important than utility. For a shooter it would be exactly the opposite.

 

[Slater]

I'd like to see Tisas come out with a markings correct WW2 M1911A1 clone.

 

[CapnMac]

I wonder who makes the case

Mine is imprinted with the SDS Imports logo, and has no other indications of origin.

 

[halfmoonclip]

I'm not altogether convinced that my two Turks (a 1911 and a HiPower) are cerakoted. If it is coated, it's mighty thin, compared to others I've seen. It looks like Parking to me.
In any case, they are both wonderfully machined; the flats are dead flat, and rounded surfaces perfectly done. There are no machine marks; it's really a shame they don't polish and blue some.
The 1911s are acceptable alternative in traditional 1911 in matches at Camp Perry; helped a buddy zero his (damn, that rear sight is tight; my sight pusher wouldn't touch it, and a BFH was necessary...).
The only real down side is the GI sights, which are really tough for old farts. But I've a Colt with a fiber optic.
Moon

 

[Skylerbone]

But how do you remove the Cerakote without affecting the Parkerizing?

I’ve read but not witnessed, that spray Carb Cleaner will remove Cerakote instantly and, if neutralized after will not harm bluing.

 

[AlexanderA]

I'd like to see Tisas come out with a markings correct WW2 M1911A1 clone.

Yes, but which markings? It would be hilarious if they chose Singer markings.

 

[AlexanderA]

The only real down side is the GI sights, which are really tough for old farts.

Actually, the WW2 square-notch Patridge sights were vastly better than the tiny u-shaped notches of the WW1 era. Modern shooters are spoiled.

 

[12Bravo20]

Actually, the WW2 square-notch Patridge sights were vastly better than the tiny u-shaped notches of the WW1 era. Modern shooters are spoiled.

I can attest to that. We still had a small amount of 1911s in the system that never went back to a depot to get upgraded to the A1 configuration. Though most of those were assigned to Army Reserve or National Guard units. The Partridge sights are easier to use.

Tisas 1911s do get a lot of good reviews on the different forums and I would not pass one up for a no frills pistol.

 

[DDDWho]

I have a Tisas A1 US paid for and waiting for me at my local FFL. $319 from GunBuyer. We’re out of state for the winter, should be back home in a couple of weeks. I use paddle holsters for CCW of my other stuff, I ordered one for the Tisas. 2-3 sets of 1911 grips. I’m seriously thinking of carrying the Tisas if it’s as good as claimed.

 

[bernie]

DDDWho, I bought mine on the same deal that you did. I have a total of $357.26 in it by the time you include taxes and transfer. Mine shoots great and is going to be a project gun for me. But it shoots pretty well as is, Mine shoots a little bit left, and I have not been able to drift the rear sight at all. I got after it with bench block and a punch, but it will not budge. But I am still more than happy with it.

 

[nofendertom]

DDDWho --- did your Tisas come with the round hammer and GI type grip safety ? I have never seen one in that configuration.

 

[DDDWho]

DDDWho --- did your Tisas come with the round hammer and GI type grip safety ? I have never seen one in that configuration.

The pic is from the listing that I ordered the gun from. The description said “a ring hammer instead of the traditional tang hammer.” and “True to the original, the 1911A1 features an original style grip safety”

 

[bernie]

That configuration is called the Service Special. You can still get them from GunBuyer. They were a little more inexpensive, and I kind of like the hammer. I don't believe they were trying to make a "service" pistol, but an inexpensive handgun with a couple of items that were different and/or possible special.

 

[Slamfire]

Actually, the WW2 square-notch Patridge sights were vastly better than the tiny u-shaped notches of the WW1 era. Modern shooters are spoiled.

This rare, and I mean rare Singer 1911, the front blade and rear notch are smaller than my Tisas













The sights on my M1909 Colt and M1917 Colts are very thin. Like Cowboy era thin. I believe the sights were thin to allow better placement at 6 OC on the round bull target. That was the "Combat" course of the era, these targets are from the 1940's



From my WW1 Small Arms manual, the WW1 era targets, five was the highest scoring ring. I believe the M1898, M1903 and M1911 sights were made for target shooting games, where a thin front sight allowed pin point alignment at 6 OC on the target. Which shows how "training" alters firearms. For good or bad. Incidentally, all of the 1880's target sights I have seen were positively thin. It used to be, before optical sights, that Bullseye Shooters lasted till their 40's. And when age ruined their ability to see the sights and the target clearly at the same time, the old guys washed out of the sport.

 

[Buckeye63]

I never realized how little I knew about GI style 1911’s till I read this thread

 

[halfmoonclip]

Wondered about the ring hammer myself; one fault with my TISAS is hammer bite; the hammer has a sharpish edge, and will find a little skin if fired one handed. It actually will draw blood; happened to a buddy as well. I rounded the rear of the hammer, and that reduces the damage to an occasional red spot on my hand.
Moon

 

[drobs]

My neighbor mentioned looking for a GI 1911 45. I loaned him my Rock Island GI 45 to shoot. I've pretty well switched to 9mm for my pistol shooting needs. Along with 45 Colt, 38 & 357 mag, and 10mm.



I had a few modifications done to my Rock Island since I'm left handed to include the Ambi-Safety, Hogue Hardwood Grips, and a tiny bit of the hammer spur ground off to eliminate the hammer bite.

My neighbor loves it and has already started reloading for. I've agreed to sell it to him.

Reading so much positive feedback on Tisas 1911's. I recently picked up a Tisas PCS9. Which is a commander sized 9mm 1911.

I have a 1911 curse. Put a reliable 1911 in my hands and it will jam. I was curious to see if that curse would extend to a 9mm 1911. Yes it does. I was able to fire off 3 magazines of 147gr FMJ before I experienced multiple failures to eject.

I may try some different ammo and mags. I also may try pinning the grip safety or putting a section of rubber innertube over the grip safety.



Digging through my holsters, I found that a Glock 19 IWB holster will fit this railed 1911:

 

[trackskippy]

Fiddling with the extractor, and then replacing it with a new one, seems to have solved the feed/ejection issues with my "Service" model. Just a guess on my part, but Im thinking the previous owner was loading rounds into the chamber and dropping the slide on them, and not loading everything from the mag, but who knows.

Mags seem to be somewhat of an issue too, or at least they have been with mine. I have a bunch of the standard MecGar 9mm mags, with the spacer in the rear, and for the most part, they worked OK once I got the extractor tuned to where it likes it, but they still have the occasional issues, and with three of my 9mm 1911's. The MecGar 10 round mags with the spacer in the front, seem to work pretty much 100%.

 

[geo57]

I sure enjoy mine so far. These were the last two rounds fired this morning. WWB 230 gr. FMJ. 7 yards offhand.

Slater, I wish you the best of luck with yours.

 

[doubleh]

I saw some pretty frilly Tisa 1911s at yesterday's gunshow and still very reasonably priced compared to the frilly and even plain US made ones. I saw a couple of stainless Rugers and I was very glad I bought mine three years ago.

 

[halfmoonclip]

... Mine shoots a little bit left, and I have not been able to drift the rear sight at all. I got after it with bench block and a punch, but it will not budge...

I've a bench vise with leather jaws, an assortment of brass drifts, and a machinists' hammer...it took some serious pounding to move that rear sight. Abdul Abulbul Amir must install them...
Moon

 

[trackskippy]

I got the impression that they were painted after they were installed, as the finish on both are the same, and with no signs of the sight being drifted in after the fact.

I used a pusher on the one of mine, and it took a lot more effort to get it started moving, than any of the other sights Ive moved with it.

 

[hk940]

Got 2 T-Sauce 1911… THEY ARE BOMB!

will buy more when they have them back to $299!!

There are a few on GB one started at $300 now at 333.37 there is another dealer on there who has 12 at 339 ea.
Don't forget tax, shipping and transfer

 

[Mark_Mark]

There are a few on GB one started at $300 now at 333.37 there is another dealer on there who has 12 at 339 ea.
Don't forget tax, shipping and transfer

Thanks! transfer fee are reserved for expensive guns! it’s $40(transfer fee) + $25(pistol tax) + 10% city tax = too much. I’m going to wait till the next town over have them on sale and buy 1-2 more for safe keeping.

 

[CajunBass]

I'm sure everyone is sick of hearing about my four Tisas 1911's. I started off with one, just something cheap to shoot up some 45 ACP I had laying around. I liked it so I ordered a Tank Commander in 9mm, since I already load for 9mm and I've always wanted a 9mm commander. That'll do it.

Then that guy at the local gun shop showed me a 9mm Sting Ray...that thing was pretty cool, especially for the price. I wasn't going to get it, but my wife made me..."I'm not going to listen to you whine about how you should have bought that gun. Now GET IT!" What could I do? She MUST be obeyed...some times.

Problem was they also showed me B45B that was pretty much like the Sting Ray, only in 45 with a steel frame. That thing kept sneeking into the back of my head...You want me...come get me." So I had to go back and buy that one too. Don't tell her it's not the same gun.

I like all four of them. I had a couple of malfunctions with one of them, I don't even remember for sure which, but I blame them on the fact that the gun was dirty and dry. I had meant to lube it first but forgot. A little oil took care of that. Since then, no problems with any of the four.

I like the lowered ejection ports and the flared mag wells. I don't mind the ambi safeties others don't seem to like. The sights on the "Service" are no worse than the ones on my Colt Government Model I had many years ago. It's my eyes that aren't as good, so I'm thankful the other three have better sights. I really like the minimalist approach to roll marks and the fact that three of the four don't have forward slide serrations. I do have to admit though that the one with the forward serrations (on the B45B) are a nice touch for my old arthritic hands to grab onto. They make racking the slide a lot easier. Even the grips aren't too bad. Kinda plain, but workable.

Top 1911A1 Service 45. Bottom left, 9mm Tank Commander, Right 9mm Sting Ray.



And the B45B, 45 acp