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New to me M1 Carbine.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Slyy, Jun 23, 2012.

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  1. Slyy

    Slyy Member

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    So recently picked an M1 Carbine from my Uncle, not entirely sure on the background of this particular rifle.

    What I understand at least was sometime in the late 50's my grandfather picked this up at a police auction but what happened to it before that is a mystery.
    It is a Winchester, serial number 568XXXX (manufactured 194?).

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    It came with, as far as I can tell, all the appropriate accessories though not sure if the sling and oiler are original to the rifle, or are repros maybe?
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    Also not really sure the stock has anything approaching an original finish, it looks like it has a varnished coat. Had plans to do a BLO finish if it was not. Don't want to ruin it by refinishing if it is original as is.
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    Going to post Bayonet pics and additional stock photos as well.

    Just wanted to share and see if anyone has additional information about my Carbine and it's friends! Thanks!
     
  2. Slyy

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    Another photo of the stock, you can see how the hand guard looks like it has a completely (original?) different finish than the stock.

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    And the bayonet:

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    Will get it out to shoot soon and post a report about it!!
     
  3. 1KPerDay

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    Very cool!
     
  4. 19&41

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    I doubt if your International Silver co.. oiler is a repro. Sometimes you find a mfr. stamp on the sling, if not, it's hard to tell for certain. Your stock kind of looks like it has a lighter color wood with a dark finish on it, looking at that scratch in the finish. Nice looking carbine, overall. How is the barrel marked?
     
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    You are going to love it 30 carbine is a fun caliber to shoot!
     
  6. Slyy

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    The barrel has no markings I can tell except for a flaming bomb symbol on the bottom just past the receiver.

    I did read that Winchester did not stamp alot of its barres? I there are any other marking on the barrel I they must be faint and I haven't given it a very close inspection on the outside surfaces.
     
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    I've been wanting a M1 carbine for a while, especially one with a bayonet lug
     
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    That may be the case with the barrel. Try some engine searches using the markings on your various marked parts and accessories. There are a lot of bits of info out there on mfr's.
     
  9. carbine85

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    If you look closely at the barrel you might find a lightly stricken W for Winchester. I think Buffalo Arms made barrels with on the flaming bomb. The serial number will tell you when it was made. It's most likely a refurb. The cartouches should be on the other side of the stock, in the sling well and under the hand guard.
     
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    Isn't that stock what they call a "high wood"-not cut away in the area of the operating slide?

    And the bayonet with the leather washer grip: weren't most of those replaced with plastic handles?
     
  11. Baba Louie

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    Yes and yes.

    I'd go ahead and strip, then hand rub BLO the stock (or tung oil or Pilkingtons per instructions)... which will be a labor of love over time. Once a day for a week, once a week for a month, etc.

    Winchester carbines... nice.
     
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    Now form what I have read BLO is pretty much the only sanctioned finish for these?

    That was my concern regarding refinishing the stock, only the hand guard seemed like a BLO finish to me while the stock proper has a varnish type coating. It current finish looks atrocious to me, but at the same time I don't want to take off the current finish of it adds value to the gun that way.

    Though I do not mind fixing it back to original of its current state is another individual's blunder further back in its past.

    Again appreciate the replies!
     
  14. rondog

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    BLO is fine, but I personally would use 100% Pure Tung Oil. That stock sure looks like it's been coated with some kind of "finish", which needs to go, but since it's an original high-wood stock, be very careful with it! Kind of like a fine old piece of furniture that somebody "antiqued" back in the '60's.
     
  15. Baba Louie

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    By stripping off that black varnish/shellac and re-applying BLO/Tung/Whathaveyou, you'll be doing the world of milsurps a favor. Value? As a Winchester war baby, it's hard to lower the value unless you make it a sanded/shiney/varnish. Get it back into issued or re-arsenaled shape... good to go for the next 60 years.

    Do it slow and with care.

    Now to find yourself a Winchester Garand... ;)
     
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