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New XCR PDW Pics! (7/10/2009)

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by variablebinary, Jul 10, 2009.

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  1. variablebinary

    variablebinary Member

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    I will add more details later because I have to run out. This is just a prototype. Production is not ready yet. Here are the pics for now though.

    Enjoy

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  2. P.B.Walsh

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    Wish we could have SBR's in Alabama...., nice rifle though...!! :)
     
  3. ECVMatt

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    That is awesome!!

    Have fun with that.
     
  4. meytind

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    Looks awesome. One more reason to hate NY state's firearms laws.
     
  5. dscottw88

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    Gun porn in its purest form. Looks incredible.
     
  6. armoredman

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    Nice, if available without happy switch would be worth the NFA hassle for the SBR.
     
  7. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Looks handy; I like it. Can Canadians buy this without hassles?
     
  8. heron

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    Cool! Pricey, though. What is the zipper-pull-looking thing on the front of the foregrip?
     
  9. 2TransAms

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    I want this.
     
  10. BamaXD

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    I'm with P.B.Walsh...that is a nice piece of hardware I would love to have. It just sucks we can't have SBR's in Alabama.
     
  11. highorder

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    Sexy. How long is the barrel?
     
  12. heathen

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    Pretty sweet what's the specs on this?

    Caliber? OA length? Length folded? Barrel length, 9"?

    Thanks. Heath
     
  13. ny32182

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    I believe it is a 9" barrel; current schedule per the mfg is that it will be released sometime next month in 5.56, 6.8, and 7.62x39.

    The upper is shorter than a standard XCR upper, and the gas system is shorter as well, so this upper is not interchangeable barrel-wise with the standard carbine. This was neccessary to get the barrel down to 9". The lowers are the same as the standard carbine.

    I'm tempted.
     
  14. 12131

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    So, what happened to the OP?:evil:
     
  15. variablebinary

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    I dont have a measuring tape handy, but I am going to guess the OAL is 30", and 21" folded...give or take.

    9" barrel.

    5.56 is the caliber. However 6.8 and 7.62x39 will also be available.

    If you own an XCR, all you need is a new PDW upper.

    I think you mean the locking tab on the Troy rail cover. Is that what you mean?
     
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  16. variablebinary

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    Next to my LWRC/6520 MK18 build for a sense of scale.

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  17. John Parker

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    You could totally dual-wield those.
     
  18. variablebinary

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    Quick pics from shooting today. Full auto FNC was part of the fun. The light wasnt very good so the quality is a little rough. I will give shooting impressions later when I have time

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  19. Pony Express

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    Wow, very neat rifles. Im not familiar with the XCR platform. I'm assuming its a gas-piston FAL/G3 type action?

    Cool rifles, i hope to get my hands on some SBR's someday as well. :D
     
  20. dscottw88

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    You are correct to assume it is a gas-piston rifle. Similar to the FAL, but not so much HK's G3. The G3 uses a "delayed blowback" op system which can be harsh on brass.

    The XCR platform takes most good from the AR and "improves" it by removing the DI system and replacing it with a gas piston. IN THEORY, this will render the rifle more reliable. In my personal experience however, and for those of my family and friends, the DI system happens to be perfectly capable of maintaining its reliablility under any condition.
     
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    nice, thanks for sharing, it is neat, i personally would prefer an sbr on the ar platform instead, but it is nice to know that these are out there.

    btw how did it go at the range? how did the wolf ammo run in it?
     
  22. ny32182

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    Actually the XCR is an amalgamation of three rifles; the AR, AK, and FAL. In terms of the action, it is by far more closely related to the AK than the AR or FAL. It is *not* a gas piston AR15, and shares no major component compatibility with the AR. It uses a long stroke piston with the recoil spring coiled up in the piston, and a carrier and three lug rotating bolt that operate very similarly to the AK. The FAL (and as I understand it, many of the AR15 piston additions out there) use a short stroke piston where the piston is not attached to the carrier.

    The gas plug/regulator is roughly FAL-like, though these two parts have been combined into one adjustable gas plug on the XCR. The bolt catch is located in the same place as the FAL's, but is closer to the trigger and ambidextrous, making it much more easy to operate. The charging handle is on the left side, identical to the FAL.

    The AR influence is actally rather limited (mostly to the ergonomics); the selector is ergonomically similar, but rotates 45 degrees rather than 90. It takes AR pistol grips, and uses a similar mag catch. It also uses AR15 style magazines. Other than that, the lowers are different.

    The upper is monolithic and the barrel is free floated/QD, somewhat similar in concept to the LMT MRP.
     
  23. lobo9er

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    nice i like xcr i think it is ashame the military went for the scar something about the scar rubs me the wrong way
     
  24. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    At what point does a carbine become a "PDW"? Honestly I think I'd rather have a .45 acp or 10mm with a bbl that short.

    It's actually a "long stroke gas piston", almost identical to Kalashnikovs.

    Mr. ny32182 is exactly correct. It combines the best of the AK (operating system), AR (ergos), and FAL (easy open and adjustable gas system).
     
  25. david_the_greek

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    I personally like that much better than the original (in terms of looks). If MI allowed sbr's then maybe I'd buy one :'-(
     
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