New York S1427-2011: Proposes a constitutional amendment protecting the RKBA

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Sponsor: SALAND / Co-sponsor(s): BONACIC, GALLIVAN, LARKIN, MAZIARZ, NOZZOLIO, O'MARA, RANZENHOFER, RITCHIE, SEWARD, YOUNG / Committee: JUDICIARY
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S1427-2011 Memo
BILL NUMBER:S1427

TITLE OF BILL:
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY proposing an amendment to the constitution in relation to the right to keep and bear arms

PURPOSE:
This proposed constitutional amendment would provide within the New York State Constitution for a right of the people to keep and bear arms for traditionally recognized purposes.

SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS:
A new Article Twenty would be added to the State Constitution to ensure the individual right of the law-abiding citizen to keep and bear arms for the purposes of defense of self, state, hunting and recreation.

JUSTIFICATION:
The proposed language is an approximate conglomeration of the language of the Oregon and New Mexico State constitutions. It seeks to protect activities involving lawfully held arms, which have been traditionally recognized by the constitutions of the various states. The language also places with the State all authority over the regulation of arms and arms accouterments. This is something of particularly great need in New York State as a patchwork of local regulations and administrative practices have created tremendous confusion over and disparity between, applicable regulations from county to county.

In recent years, there has been considerable dispute as to whether the right of the people to keep and bear arms, (as guaranteed by the United States Constitution, Amendment II), protects an individual right to arms, or only state power over militias. Recently, in the landmark case of D. C. v. Heller the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment does in fact protect an individual right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense. (D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 290 (2008)). In reaching this holding, the Court cited historical scholarship and linguistic evidence which amply demonstrates that what the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees is a right of law-abiding, responsible adults to acquire and possess arms for lawful uses. (See, e.g. 4 Encyclopedia of the American Constitution, 1639-40, Karst & Levi eds. (1986); Levinson, The Embarrassing Second Amendment, 99 Yale Law Journal 637, (1991); Khates, Handgun Prohibition and the Original Meaning of the Second Amendment, 82 Michigan Law Review 204, 244-52, (1983); Shalhope, The Ideological Origins of the Second Amendment, 69 Journal of American History 599, (1982)). The Court further cited the many state constitutions containing provisions protecting an individual right to bear arms for self-defense. (D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 590). Thus, the amendment proposed puts to a final rest whatever remains of the now largely discredited states' rights position. However, as the proposed amendment explicitly provides for a right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of defense of the State, it is clear that the ability of the State to maintain its traditional militia is not in any way impaired by enactment of the amendment.

The proposal here is for a guarantee of individual rights in a state constitution, and this necessarily means that the guarantee is to the individual rather than the State. Indeed, the State would have no reason to guarantee rights of the state, possessed under the state Constitution, against prohibition by the State itself. Civil rights provisions, such as the proposal here, have been generally interpreted as broadly guaranteeing a right of individuals to possess various kinds of ordinary arms to law-abiding, responsible adults. (See, State v. Kessler, 614 P. 2d 94, (Or. S.Ct. 1980); see also, S. Halbrook, A Right To Bear Arms: State and Federal Bills of Right and Constitutional Guarantees 1989); Dowle, The Right to Arms, 36 Oklahoma Law Review 789 (1982); Dowle, Federal and State Constitutional Guarantees To Arms. 15 university of Dayton Law Review 1 1989); Chaplain, The Right of the Individual to Bear Arms, bet. Coll. Law Review 789 (1982). There is no provision currently in the New York State constitution providing for a guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms. This puts New York into a small minority of states lacking such traditional state constitutional protection for citizens. This is especially surprising when it is considered that it was New York's own delegation which prevented ratification of the original Federal Constitution until assurances were given that, upon ratification, work would begin on a Bill of Rights guaranteeing individual freedoms against government encroachment. It would seem a gross oversight that the very same protections against governmental excess which the New York delegation sought to prevent would nevertheless be found lacking in the New York State Constitution.

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:
2009-2010: S.1256 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
2007-2008: S.1079 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
2005-2006: S.463 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
2003-2004: S.2824 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
2001-2002: S.5059 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
1999-2000: S.3079 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
1997-1998: S.677 - Opinion referred to Judiciary
1995-1996: S.1420 - Opinion referred to Judiciary

FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:
None.

EFFECTIVE DATE:
RESOLVED (if the Assembly concur), That the foregoing amendments be referred to the first regular legisaltive session convening after the next succeeding general election of members of the assembly, and, in conformity with section 1 of article 19 of the constitution, be published for 3 months previous to the time of such election.

S1427-2011 Text
S T A T E O F N E W Y O R K

1427
2011-2012 Regular Sessions
I N SENATE
January 7, 2011

Introduced by Sens. SALAND, BONACIC, LARKIN, MAZIARZ, RANZENHOFER, SEWARD -- read twice and ordered printed, and when printed to be committed to the Committee on Judiciary CONCURRENT RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY proposing an amendment to the constitution in relation to the right to keep and bear arms

Section 1. RESOLVED (if the Assembly concur), That article 20 of the constitution be renumbered article 21 and a new article 20 be added to read as follows:

ARTICLE XX
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
SECTION 1. THE PEOPLE SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS FOR THE DEFENSE OF THEMSELVES AND THE STATE, FOR LAWFUL HUNTING AND RECREATIONAL USE, AND FOR ANY OTHER LAWFUL PURPOSES, AND NO COUNTY, MUNICIPALITY OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE SHALL REGULATE, IN ANY WAY, AN INCIDENT OF THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.


S 2. RESOLVED (if the Assembly concur), That the foregoing amendment be referred to the first regular legislative session convening after the next succeeding general election of members of the Assembly, and, in conformity with section 1 of article 19 of the constitution be published for 3 months previous to the time of such election.

EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets [ ] is old law to be omitted. LBD89043-01-1

1: LINK: S1427-2011

2 LINK: Committee Meeting: Tuesday, May 15th, 2012, 11:30 am - 12:30 pm
 
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Of course, it won't be applicable to New York City, like all the other state firearms regulations! :uhoh::scrutiny:
 
I've lived in NY for 30 years. This will not pass and this is not meaningful anyway.

Why is this being proposed?
 
So this has been introduced every year since I was knee-high to a grasshopper?
It seems like it has as much chance of passing as McCarthys ZOMG11RDMAGSAREDANGEROUS bill she bring up EVERY. FRICKEN. YEAR.

But hey, as a summer resident of New York, more power to ya! Now if I can only bring my CZ up there without fear of felonies, we'd be great!
 
"PURPOSE:
This proposed constitutional amendment would provide within the New York State Constitution for a right of the people to keep and bear arms for traditionally recognized purposes. (emphasis mine)"

Say what? What means "traditionally recognized purposes"? I was under the impression that the traditionally recognized purpose was to protect the people from government oppression. Why not spell it out? Or why qualify it at all?
 
That would be "defense of person". It's spelled out. Passing of this bill would make passing of other pro-2a bills easier in NY.
 
If one takes the time to look at the "legislative history", you see that this has been "proposed" time and time again for the last 20 years.
It will pass as soon as flying flaming monkeys fly outta my butt.
 
NY!!

Yep. I'll hold my breath.....NOT Nothing will ever come out of NY,NJ,MA or CT that is or will be positive for the 2A or firearm owners. Who was recently on TV from NY, with a mother from FL, about new anti firearm laws?????
 
Well - good job - keep it up.

We've been introducing carry legislation in Illinois every year and it's been defeated one way or another every year.

We just keep at it.

This year we certainly sem to be close.
 
I spoke to Patty Ritchie`s office to thank her for co-sponsoring this bill.I spoke to Joe Griffo`s office, and while Joe is very much in favor of it, so far the NYS assembly refused to cooperate.Assemblyman Ken Blankenbush`s office said they`ve been unable to get it past the Democrats in the assembly. Well, that`s hardly a surprise, is it?
NYC Dems see strict restrictions on the RKBA as a form of Occupational Health and Safety Acts to protect their voting base- criminals and the mentally deranged.
 
I've lived in NY for 30 years. This will not pass and this is not meaningful anyway.

Why is this being proposed?

So some politician can say "look what I did vote for me".
A meaningless gesture is all it is.
 
Perhaps if the New Yorkers who do support it get together and make it known the gesture will eventually be acted on. As opposed to just complaining with out taking any personal action.
 
New York and Illinois are similar in that the people in an entire state are ruled by the concentration of political power in the major city - although New York also has Buffalo.
 
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