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http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_022171646.html

CBS) NEWARK We all know knives can be dangerous, but one knife hitting the streets has police extremely worried.

This particular knife is really a gun in disguise.

This weapon is so dangerous that authorities are sending an alert out to police departments across the nation, warning officers to be cautious.

CBS 2 News has just obtained video of this knife that fires bullets.

It looks like a knife, but it's actually a gun and it can fire up to five rounds.

"It's as dangerous as whenever a police officer encounters an individual anytime with a weapon," said Gerard McAleer of the Drug Enforcement Agency.

"When you don't see the weapon, when it's an undercover illegal weapon like that there's concern because something you may not think is a threat actually is."

DEA officials in Newark said weapons like this are usually manufactured in someone's garage or overseas.

The target population?

''The gangsters, the lawbreakers," McAleer said.

Law enforcement officials said there are a number of weapons that pose a threat to police. One such weapon is a pen gun and another is a legal knife gun.

"What's happening with drug traffickers and other gang-bangers on the streets is they're taking innocuous objects and making firearms with them," McAleer said.

So far, New Jersey officials said they haven't seen the knife-gun used in any crimes on the streets.

However, they are on the look out.

The other weapon they're very concerned about is a gun that's disguised as a Blackberry.

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The video to the right of the above linked page is worth watching. At one point the reporter points the gun at the camera guy and dry fires it :uhoh: . I got a laugh when I heard her say it was "perfectly legal" :confused: um not quite. Would this not be considered a AOW by the NFA act. Yes I know they are legal with a stamp (not sure if AOWs are allowed in NJ) but she makes it sound like this is something you can pick up at any old Wal-Mart or sporting goods store.
 
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I just love how they say its a fearsome weapon compared to what they normally encounter. Its a freakin .22 with no barrel to speak of and no sights. I think I would be more worried about a thug with a Jennings or a Raven (which your more likely to encounter) than this.
 
The other weapon they're very concerned about is a gun that's disguised as a Blackberry.
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hehehe... a camera-phone-gun would more of a marvel...

call your pals, shoot a perp, then take a picture...

...then brag to your pals
 
I could only see Jennings guns useful in actual gang wars, where the 90 degree angle spread fire would be useful :D Seriously, I've shot one of those things. I couldn't hit an old barrel standing a few yards away.

A 22 gun with no barrel. wow, very fearsome. I didn't watch the video, but I can't imagine that knife being much of a blade either, probably 440 stainless with no tang to speak of. I think this would be more of a silly conversation piece than something anyone would seriously consider using. I'd love to be wrong, though...if gangs around here were using that thing, I'd feel pretty safe at night
 
Here you go:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/grad_info.html
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Not exactly new, however. I have seen these knives for sale on Impact Guns for quite a few years.

And the concept itself is quite old...
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These seem like an interesting novelty, but hardly a "weapon so dangerous that authorities are sending an alert out to police departments across the nation". I would be more worried about the knife blade punching through kevlar than the .22lr bullet that it fires. If I was the police I would be much more fearful of guns disguised as innocent objects like cell phones. To be of any use, the BG will have to get close and fire at an un-armored part of the body, and who is going to let some one with a knife get close?
 
Elven Mike, A little of both.

Some companies make knife-guns like the one above and sell them to anyone who goes through the proper paperwork, and some are made by individuals who cannot afford to or legally buy a real gun. If you do some research on "Improvised Firearms" you will find all kinds of guns made from simple, every-day things. Home made guns were very popular in the early part of this century when most guns were too expensive for the very poor to buy. It takes hardly any skill at all to make a single-shot smooth-bore pistol out of commonly available items.
 
Ummm... So where would this fit into the old advice about not taking a knife to a gunfight?
 
That would be perfect for cutting up meat straight out of the freezer! "stubborn...dang....BANG!...there we go"
It's a novelty item. I'd be surprised if it could hit a 55 gallon drum at 15 feet.
 
From the article.. "When you don't see the weapon, when it's an undercover illegal weapon like that there's concern because something you may not think is a threat actually is."

Sure, because Police wouldn't even bother to concern themselves with a 10+ inch fixed blade knife .. clearly they wouldn't consider that to be a danger to them at all :rolleyes:
 
I can understand cops' fears about a weapon like this, but comeon, it is a .22 with no barrel. It is less lethal than a air rifle! Now if they made one in 9mm, I'd buy it!
The blade does give it away as being an "offensive" weapon though :D
 
what get's me...

DEA officials in Newark said weapons like this are usually manufactured in someone's garage or overseas.

The target population?

''The gangsters, the lawbreakers," McAleer said.
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So if we make guns illegal, these "lawbreakers" won't have them right? Oh wait, they are making them. So by making guns illegal, you've disarmed the law abiding citizens but the "lawbreakers" will just make them in their garage or get them oversees. I mean, most drugs are illegal but people still manage to get them, why do liberals think that guns are any different?

I really need to get out of Jersey...
 
I have come to believe that many educated liberal politicians realize that taking guns away wont actually make a difference, however I also believe that they realize its just do damn hard, takes too damn long, and costs to damn much to effectively stop the criminals who cause these crimes. Instead they ban something and say to their voter base "look at what I have done, I have made you safer, please vote for me and my party again!" After all, if they really thought they were making the world a safer place, I doubt they would use as many bodyguards :banghead:

Sorry for the off topic post, I was just replying to another posters comment...I'll shut up now.
 
"When you don't see the weapon, when it's an undercover illegal weapon like that there's concern because something you may not think is a threat actually is."
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More scare mongering by the press, must've been a slow news day.

The "blackberry" gun (or it's grandpappy from my day, the "pager" gun) was a serious concern because they didn't look like a weapon at all. With this thing, if someone had turned towards me with that knife (even with me not knowing it was also a gun) and didn't instantly put it down when ordered then I'd have ventilated them on the spot.

'Course things were a -little- different back then. :banghead:
 
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