smince
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Most days, I'd take a good knife (or the pointy stick) over any derringer (or most .22/.25/.32's)
Nice to carry, painful to shoot
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W.E.G.
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I'm sure I could deploy a 3-inch knife with greater speed and effect than I could any derringer I've ever seen.
+1 for the Glock 26 as the answer to real power in a small package.
+1 for the Glock 26 as the answer to real power in a small package.
copper4262
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i think one needs to consider what they are going to use their gun for based on its limitations, and then decide if they can live within those limitations. Personally i prefer to carry a full or midsized gun. I like knowing i can shoot the gun well and also enjoy the idea of carrying more then 5 rounds at a time. But alas...there are times when only a mouse gun will do. And I will admit i do kinda like the little buggers...sadly they have limitations. I used to carry a .22 - very small and very nice to carry - but i didn't trust it - so i carried a Sig .380 for awhile - also easy to carry - but i wanted a bigger cal so I went to a Kel-Tec P11. The only problem with the Kel-Tec is that it wanted to jump out of my hands after about 3 rounds. So then i switched to the glock 27 - again - it wants to jump out of my hands - I just could never get used to the way it fit my hands - i still have the glock but its pretty much a safe queen now. so what mouse gun do i carry now?? Well...when im not carrying a full size gun i reach for the Smith642 or model 36 - Light - easy to conceal and they shoot oh soooo sweeet! and surprisingly enough - if you practice enough they can be very accurate for little belly guns.
w_houle
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I have a Davis D38, and one rather long shooting session (IIRC it was 100rds of WWB) had rather nicely broke me of the urge to shoot it ever again with any kind of solid projectile. It does rather impressively with .38 shotshells, so it's fine for small critters. The only problem is that it's a small gun that is difficult to hold and control If this ABSOLUTELY has to be an SD gun: Make sure to have it indexed to make the bottom barrel go off first, the lower bore axis will ensure that you are more likely to hit what you aim at 
sonier
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I havnt dealt with featherlights, but my powerhouse handloads in my 357 magnum i have found are not as bad is i thought it would be, but then again im not recoil shy at all and I have shot 1000s of 38s and 357 magnum so practice teaches you how to roll with the recoil and shoot all day long.
wally
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S&W SC360 "scandium" .357 Mag. 15 ounces fully loaded with five rounds of 158gr JHP. It is not fun to shoot, but its easy to carry and will do the job if called upon.
emilianoksa
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Get a Mak.
A little bit bigger, but slim, and you can shoot it all day at the range.
All metal, rugged construction, cheap to buy, military standard of reliablity, chrome lined barrel, easy to strip, and blow back accuracy.
And with a long and distinguished history.
A little bit bigger, but slim, and you can shoot it all day at the range.
All metal, rugged construction, cheap to buy, military standard of reliablity, chrome lined barrel, easy to strip, and blow back accuracy.
And with a long and distinguished history.
NoAlibi
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A couple of things:
When I went through the police academy ((1972) We were taught that in the "average" gun fight 2.3 rounds were expended in 2.6 seconds. If you have a 2 shot handgun, where are you going to get the other .3 round? What if the gun fight is a little more than "average"? Better to err to the side of safety.
ANY gun that will fire when you pull the trigger is better than no gun - refer to the first rule of gun fighting.
I have seen the elephant on more than one occasion and I promise you that when life is on the line you'll never remember the recoil. So get as much gun as you can control and conceal no matter how hard it recoils. You can handle the required practice by either downloading your ammo to a comfortable level or have someone do it for you.
You owe this to whomever you are protecting and to anybody who may end up as an innocent victim if you don't practice.
When I went through the police academy ((1972) We were taught that in the "average" gun fight 2.3 rounds were expended in 2.6 seconds. If you have a 2 shot handgun, where are you going to get the other .3 round? What if the gun fight is a little more than "average"? Better to err to the side of safety.
ANY gun that will fire when you pull the trigger is better than no gun - refer to the first rule of gun fighting.
I have seen the elephant on more than one occasion and I promise you that when life is on the line you'll never remember the recoil. So get as much gun as you can control and conceal no matter how hard it recoils. You can handle the required practice by either downloading your ammo to a comfortable level or have someone do it for you.
You owe this to whomever you are protecting and to anybody who may end up as an innocent victim if you don't practice.
carbuncle
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My Taurus 85 was a handful with Cor-Bon +p .38s in it. Every time I went to the range I'd shoot the rounds in the cylinder to stay fresh on shot placement, but I never once had fun shooting that gun. That being said, that weapon, of all those I've owned, was carried on my person more than any other.
DFW1911
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My Smith and Wesson 329 PD in .44 Magnum. I carry it as a backup gun when I go fishing in Alaska.
It's light weight makes it a great carry gun. But firing the thing, holy smokes! When I first bought it the grip was wooden. On my first trip to the range I cringed every time I pulled the trigger. It was just outright painful.
I sent it to S&W Custom for porting and put a Pachmyar recoil reducer (or something like that) on it.
It's now shootable without feeling like someone is hitting your hand with a baseball bat!
It's light weight makes it a great carry gun. But firing the thing, holy smokes! When I first bought it the grip was wooden. On my first trip to the range I cringed every time I pulled the trigger. It was just outright painful.
I sent it to S&W Custom for porting and put a Pachmyar recoil reducer (or something like that) on it.
It's now shootable without feeling like someone is hitting your hand with a baseball bat!
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My most unpleasant CCW was the S&W 360/3460 (I owned one of the former and two of the latter).
With .38 SPL +p, not fun, but no problem. With "real" .357s...kind of like a firecracker going off in your hand....multiple times.
My Kahr PM9, even with 9mm+p+ ammo, is infinitely more controllable and easier to shoot well (easy to put 100 rounds worth of practice ammo through) much quicker/easier to reload, ...and easier to conceal/carry.
My LCP is even easier to carry...although, to be honest, I like the .380 far more in theory than in practice, so I do not carry it.
With .38 SPL +p, not fun, but no problem. With "real" .357s...kind of like a firecracker going off in your hand....multiple times.
My Kahr PM9, even with 9mm+p+ ammo, is infinitely more controllable and easier to shoot well (easy to put 100 rounds worth of practice ammo through) much quicker/easier to reload, ...and easier to conceal/carry.
My LCP is even easier to carry...although, to be honest, I like the .380 far more in theory than in practice, so I do not carry it.
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I also thought this thread would be about the P3AT. Like stated before it is very easy to carry, but not that fun to shoot. I just bought a Sig 238 HD, and although alittle bigger, I can carry it in a holster completely concealed, and it IS a pleasure to shoot...the only problem is, the FU$^#@$* ammo price, oh well. I find myself wearing my Kimber Ultra CDPII in a Crossbreed Super Tuck, evrywhere, except while not having a shirt on.
wally
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The few folks I know that have fired shots in anger all report not even hearing the gun fire! -- let alone remember anything about recoil!
Shooting my SC360 with 158 gr .357 Mag ammo is a lot like hitting a baseball with the end of the bat leaving your hands buzzing for a few seconds afterwards.
Harley Rider 55
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I've heard the 340 is a little rough with full magnum loads. I've heard it compared to firing a full house .454 out of a 8" Raging Bull. I've fired10 rounds from a Raging Bull and I was ready to let someone else shoot.
My old J frame 442 is not +P rated. I've test fired a few +P rounds and it wasn't pleasnt. Since it's not rated for the high pressure round, I cannot ptactice with what I would carry. I'll stick with standard pressure .38's as that's what I practice with and am comfortable with.
My old J frame 442 is not +P rated. I've test fired a few +P rounds and it wasn't pleasnt. Since it's not rated for the high pressure round, I cannot ptactice with what I would carry. I'll stick with standard pressure .38's as that's what I practice with and am comfortable with.
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