No New Gun Control Bills Will Pass This Congress

[gifbohane]

One of these days there going to slide it through...everyone thought that the Blue Dog dems would sink Obongocare and ................

 

[Basura Blanca]

Each mass shooting hurts the cause of gun rights; ergo, it's in our interest as gun owners to try to prevent mass shootings.

Agree with the first part, but not necessarily the last. It's in the best interest of everyone to prevent mass shootings, individual shootings, stabbings, clubbings, and every other imaginable form of unwarranted violence. But it's total mission creep when we, acting as gun rights activists, wade into deeply complex social issues like criminal violence. It's not our job to solve the negative potentialities of the 2A. We aren't advocating for an individual right to indiscriminately shoot innocent people, so why do we feel the need to address things like mass shootings in the context of the 2A? The two exist within completely separate realms. Further, it's an unwinnable endeavor.

If someone wanted me to defend the 2A from the point of view of "what about mass shootings?", my reaction would be "I didn't kill those people at the mall/movie theater/school/wherever".

 

[citizenconn]

100% positive.

Yes, but you thought John Cornyn was playing 4D underwater chess with his machinations on the red flag bill and look how that turned out.

 

[AlexanderA]

Yes, but you thought John Cornyn was playing 4D underwater chess with his machinations on the red flag bill

I still think that. He basically emasculated the antigunners' plan.

 

[jmorris]

I still think that. He basically emasculated the antigunners' plan.

Their plan is to mimic cancer and keep taking until there is nothing to take. There is no, “Ah, see that’s better. We need to go no further.” moment for them.

One thing I know he did for sure is, ensure I will not cast another vote for him. It was needless to give his support and he hasn’t told me what “we” got out of it. Or even responded at all to this constituents questions…

 

[citizenconn]

I still think that. He basically emasculated the antigunners' plan.

 

[toivo]

Reconstruction provided the framework to force 3 constitutional amendments through that would never have passed otherwise.

And those amendments had little to no effect for about a century.

I think it's more historically accurate to say that Reconstruction didn't fail; it was abandoned. The political will to maintain it wasn't there.

 

[AlexanderA]

I think it's more historically accurate to say that Reconstruction didn't fail; it was abandoned. The political will to maintain it wasn't there.

The end of Reconstruction was part of the compromise that settled the disputed 1876 Hayes-Tilden presidential election. There was plenty of will among Republican and northern circles to continue it. But they wanted to get their man in as president.

 

[crestoncowboy]

I’m preaching to the choir

I own a garage. People hang out at my garage a lot. They every one have the same political view and 2A stance. Yet they get more and more riled and loud fussing. I tell them all the time "preaching to the choir" lol. There are days where for 10 hours my dad and customers rant non stop despite every one there having the same opinion. It was amusing for a day or two. Now it's downright annoying. Lol. I just turn my music up a notch or two. Or fire up an open header v8 and pretend to be measuring AFR or something. Soon as it is quietish.....back to ranting

 

[theotherwaldo]

There's one thing that almost all would-be mass shooters fear: to be remembered as a failure.

Each time a nut-case with a gun steps out to start his reign of terror and gets blown away by a good guy with a gun, other nut-cases re-think trying to go out the same way... .