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Noob question: Whats an Idiot mark?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by boredelmo, Jul 18, 2007.

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  1. boredelmo

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    Seen it mentioned alot.

    What exactly is it.
     
  2. JackW

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    It's the little semi-circle scratch on a 1911 type gun. Caused by trying to get the slide stop back in during re-assembly.

    It's a little tricky until you get the feel for it
     
  3. Rustynuts

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    Could be a couple things I guess. Cut on thumb/web of strong hand by gripping too high and getting cut by the slide. Same thing by wrapping weak thumb over top of strong hand.

    Or I think the real one - forgetting to lower the takedown lever and scratching the crap out of the slide.
     
  4. TX1911fan

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    Here's mine. Very first 1911. I haven't done it since, but doing it twice in one day qualifies me as a double idiot.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. .cheese.

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    Prezactly.

    I refuse to use that term though. It's impolite. People make mistakes.

    While I don't own a 1911, I made a similar mistake on a Kahr. It was my first semi-auto pistol.
     
  6. testar77

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    I was going to say that, I'm sure some of us could post some pictures of the exact definition........ but it looks like someone beat me to it :D
     
  7. cpaspr

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    Thank you. Both to those who answered and to boredelmo for asking outright exactly what it is. It's what I always kinda figured it was when people referred to it, but since I don't have any 1911s, I wasn't really sure. And it's really kinda rude to ask your friends who have 1911s if any of theirs have "idiot marks". Kinda impugns their intelligence (even if they weren't the one who put the mark there).
     
  8. orionengnr

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    If any of my 1911s have idiot marks that I did not put there, why should I take offense at that?

    If any of my 1911s have idiot marks that I did put there, how could I take offense at that?

    I generally do not buy new guns, so any marks that exist pre-purchase...oh well, they just add character (and leverage for a better purchase price. It's a shooter, anyway...)

    If I add one more...oh well, just some more character. :)

    BTW:

    Is that a question? Sure looks like one. :rolleyes:

    If so, there is a punctuation symbol known as a "question mark" that typically follows an interrogative.

    It looks like this:

    ?

    Please feel free to use it....
     
  9. boredelmo

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    Why do you care so much about punctuation.
    and i wasnt sure if you were referring to the bold function or the question mark with your example. so i chose the one i thought fit.

    And thanks for the answers guys.
     
  10. fast eddie

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    I resemble that remark.:eek:
     
  11. VARifleman

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    TX1911fan got it right, although most of the time it's on the frame just below the end of the slide stop rather than on the slide. It takes a special person to scratch the slide while doing that. :neener:
     
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    What about the semi curcular mark (scar) above the eye. Caused by being too close to the scope when the trigger is pulled?

    Oneshooter
    Livin in Texas
     
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    What about the semi curcular mark (scar) above the eye. Caused by being too close to the scope when the trigger is pulled?

    Oneshooter
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    That is the "Weatherby eyebrow.":evil:
     
  14. armed85

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    In addition to the idiot mark don't forget about the knot on one's forehead after the recoil spring plug slips off your thumb and is sent forth at high speed.

    I broke a light fixture on my ceiling fan doing that ha ha :D Luckily no knots on my forehead though.

    Wear safety glasses!
     
  15. cloudcroft

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    orionengnr,

    All such marks are ALWAYS done by the PREVIOUS owner, NEVER by any current owner. ;)

    -- John D.
     
  16. Geronimo45

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    Absolutely. Barely missed getting a firing pin shot through my eye, courtesy of a 1911. There's a tad of sheetrock on the spring plug from when I launched the thing into the ceiling by accident.
     
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    What about the semi curcular mark (scar) above the eye. Caused by being too close to the scope when the trigger is pulled?

    In our neck of the woods, we call it the order of the half moon!!
     
  18. Kevin108

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    The guy that got me into 1911s put the idiot mark on mine when he was showing me how to field strip it. If I ever get another one, I'm going to go ahead and put it there myself.
     
  19. daysleeprx

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    Consider it a rite of passage to 1911 ownership. ;)
     
  20. fletcher

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    Had no clue what this was either. Put one of those (a very light one) on my 1911 the first time I took it apart. However, I just sold it to my dad, so now he has to deal with it ;):D

    Calling it an idiot mark seems like a bit much, though. Of the firearms I've owned, I rate the 1911 as the biggest hassle to disassemble.



    Almost got one of those one time, too (first time I ever took apart a 1911 - for a friend) crack.gif
     
  21. Geronimo45

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    Ever try to disassemble a revolver? Interesting thing about those older guns was that they had no disassembly levers of any kind. All that stuff was hidden away - like the Baby Browning, PPK - not immediately evident how you're supposed to take 'em apart. Kind of clever.
     
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    I always thought that was the name of the mark you get from absorbing the recoil on a Ruger Redhawk straight back and up, slamming the hammer above your eye, instead of up and to the side. Maybe that's the Crescent Moon... hmm...

    In the idiot mark range, I let the guide rod from my P22 slip when i was compressing it without the provided tool, and chipped the lens of my glasses. $400 bucks worth of glasses later, I use the tool and safety glasses.
     
  23. AndyC

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    In South Africa, you're said to have earned your "Half Moon Badge" if you collected a scope in your eye - named after the shape of the wound ;)
     
  24. fletcher

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    Yeah, taken the GP100 apart a few times. It's got a lot of little stuff, but it's not particularly difficult to get stuff in and out without damaging it. Although, the first time, a little steel ball shot out and I spent a few minutes trying to find it :p
     
  25. foghornl

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    Both of my 1911's wear the mark....
     
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