Normal function on Remington 1100

[UKShooter]

Normal function of Remington 1100 (help required)

Hi all,

I just picked up a Remington 1100 for an absolute steal. Its my first semi auto shotgun. Previously I have only had Over and Under and pump actions.

I have some dummy shells so I went to function test it but I want to make sure its functioning normally. It was v.cheap so I'm a bit paranoid.

Basically this is what I am doing.

Pulling back the charging handle so it locks in place
Inserting one dummy round into the chamber
Pressing the release on the underside which lets the action slam shut gun is ready to fire
Insert x number more shells directly in to the magazine tube
Dry fire
Cock the action again
It picks up the next shell, puts it up in front of the chamber but the bolt locks back.

Shouldnt it let the bolt come forward without the need for pressing the release if there is another shell present? Or does it only work when the gas system has been operated?

Thanks in advance

 

[Virginian]

It only functions all the way when it is fired, or if you pull the handle back and release it really fast, or the carrier latch is slightly bent - often caused by pulling the trigger with the trigger group out of the gun. Download an owner's manual and read it and it will serve you well.

 

[bobelk99]

You are locking the bolt back when you are 'cocking it again'.

The bolt is not locked back in normal fire. It is very tricky to manually eject a dummy round and allow loading of the second one without locking the bolt back.
You need to bring the bolt back about 98% and release it, and it's darn hard to stop at that point.

If it doesn't work when you shoot it, check the rubber O ring on the mag tube.
In 40 years that is the only parts replacement I have done on them.

The manual you are going to download should address parts. If not, post questions here.

 

[mnrivrat]

The bolt release on the 1100 (when loaded shells are in the magazine) is tripped by the base of the shell coming out of the magazine and hitting the little latch. The same latch that is controlled manualy by the little crome button at the back of the shell carrier.

If your bolt is locking back after ea. round, then the latch is not being tripped. This could mean a need for a new magazine spring, or simply that the shell is not getting enough momentum doing it by your manual method.

 

[UKShooter]

Thanks very much guys that is very helpful. Hopefully I will get chance to get out and test it soon to make sure it functions as intended.

This at least puts my mind at rest that I am getting the expected results from testing.

I have downloaded the manual

There is one more question that I have.

I watched some dissasembly guides on YouTube. Im doing the following:

Undo the nut at the end of the mag tube
Remove the foreend
Remove the o ring
remove the whole barell

In the video it suggests there should be 3 piston rings left on the mag tube
When I do it, there arent.
However, inside the cylindrical part that is joined onto the barrel (where the gas ports are) there seem to be piston rings in there that dont come out. One of them moves about inside where it is but seems to be self contained in that part rather than on the mag tube itself. Is that normal? I'm wondering if my gun is just an older or newer model than the one in the vid and is therefore made slightly differently.

-Paul

 

[Virginian]

No. Lock bolt to the rear. Then, remove nut, then fore end, then barrel, and then you should have the 'O' ring, piston, and piston seal left on the magazine tube, just like the Owner's Manual says. Be careful rolling the 'O' ring over the threads, because that is how they get damaged. The do not move at all in service.
What's the serial number on yours? The newest ones do not have the detent plunger magazine cap lock, and people have been known to put another 'O' ring under the magazine cap to hold it on because the plastic contraption in the tube works half-assed.

 

[UKShooter]

I just did as you describe:

Lock the slide back
Unscrew the end cap
Take off the forend
Take off the barell

This is what I was left with:



The serial number is - M097589V

Where can I check that to see the age?

Cheers for you help.

 

[chas08]

There shouldn't be a loose ring in the sleeve on the barrel. Remove it and see if it looks like the rings in the diagram on the action sleeve (silver sticker). If it does, then stack all the parts on the Magazine tube just the way they are pictured on the silver sticker on the action sleeve. Depending on age, yours may have a two piece piston ring newer ones have a one piece ring. From what I can see on the sticker, it looks like yours should have a two piece piston ring. Either will work as long as you have all the parts stacked in the correct order. The o-ring fits in the groove on the mag tube. The piston rings must be between the o-ring and the action sleeve with the flat side against the action sleeve for the gun to work. I hope this helps.

chas

 

[UKShooter]

Mystery solved.

One of the rings was jammed in the barrel sleave, the other was just lose behind it. With a small amount of force they both came out.

I have given the sleave a very good clean, also both rings and put it all back together as described.

Wonder how they ended up stuck in there!?!

Hopefully now its all re-assembled correctly. That was very confusing just having the parts missing!!

 

[chas08]

I've owned an 1100 for 25+years. Mine has never been stuck that way. Perhaps it was put together wrong by the previous owner and became stuck that way. Those rings must move freely up and down the Mag tube between the o-ring and the action sleeve. They apply the force to the action sleeve that makes it all work. A lot of folks criticize the 1100 for using an o-ring in the gas end, but I've never had a problem with it. I use a size 021 o-ring made of Viton material. They can be purchased at any industry oriented seal supply company for a fraction of what Remington o-rings cost. I paid $7 for a bag of 100 a few years ago and have only used a few. It's probably a lifetime supply (LOL) Viton is impervious to petroleum based solvents or lubricants and most synthetics as well, and they wear like iron (almost). The 1100 is a very proven design, all be it somewhat ancient. I'll keep the one I currently own for the rest of my days and pass it on. Best wishes.

chas

 

[UKShooter]

Just an update on this. After all of you guys helpful advice, I was happy the gun was all put together properly (no thanks to the previous owner).

I just took it out for a round of English Sporting clays. Put 50 through it with no issues whatsoever.

I'm very happy with my very cheap gun!!